github Ctrlr repository down!

[human fly]

ediiiiit: yes i did, in fact 😉
so here’s a zip of useful stuff for temporary reference, as pdfs.
i hope they are legible, i have not checked. just zipped up what
i had in my notes. 3.5mb

here: ctrlr github june2018.zip
https://app.box.com/s/ltosanio0zg95rmqrn6ljnvcarje0vml

(you’d better let me know if this is ok; it’s the Lua stuff.
seems readable as it was. i’ll take it down if there’s a prob’,
so grab it now)

• This reply was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by human fly.

[daimondamps]

Yes – it is ok. If someone have a fork of repository it can be uploaded to github but without Steinberg stinky stuff.Overall – i wish that vst will fall – LV2 open format is the future if industry adopt it.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by daimondamps.

[proton]

Hi guys,

– the Github repo is down because it contains parts of the VST2SDK and this was never allowed without a written permit from SB. They just never cared too much but now they do since they are getting rid of this VST version and I suppose now even after asking them they will not give the permission cause this is not in their interest to spread the VST2 format any longer.
– from what I understood once the VST2SDK is not present in the repo anymore Github will unblock it.

“As a panel developer you don’t distribute the vst sdk therefore it shouldn’t be necessary to ask Steinberg for permission.” – true if you distribute a panel only or a stand alone version, not true if a VST plugin – for that you need to register as an official developer and obtain a VST2 license from Steinberg (free and fairly simple task, SB just need you to sign the license so you play by the rules).

“To me another question is: what happens when you sell panels? You will sell the free Ctrlr framework, the Juce libraries which are not allowed to sell unless you buy it, and proprietary Steinberg vst code. In other words, you make money with the work done by other people / companies. I would be surprised if this would be legal.” – Ctrlr is using Juce code and Atom is distributing his creation for free under the GNU license, this is all OK and by the rules made by Juce/Roli. As soon as you use Ctrlr to create a panel that you sell commercially you as the creator/developer need to get a proper Juce license: Personal, Indie or Pro. Personal is free up to 50k cash flow and you need to put the “Made with Juce” disclaimer on your product. Indie and Pro are paid licenses without the “Made with Juce” branding and much higher budgets. When you sell VST plugin made with Ctrlr all of the above apply plus you need the free VST2 license from Steinberg which can still be obtained until October 1st 2018.

Have a great evening guys!

[daimondamps]

@proton – do you have fork of the repository? They were not closed.

[proton]

@daimondamps – no I don’t, sorry, but don’t worry, all will be back again soon. They have dmca’d Stanford and Cycle74 among many others 😉
Roman will sort this out for sure.
Cheers!

[Possemo]

@proton: this all seems to make sense to me. Thanks for your explanation. I find this “written permission” a bit strange from Steinberg though. But Steinberg is a company that always has been a bit strange…

[daimondamps]

Ctrlr repository is back !! Thanks @Atom

• This reply was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by daimondamps.

[Possemo]

yea that’s nice! Thanks atom!
Is the vst-plugin now gone? Embarassingly my knowledge ist too poor to answer this question myself.

[human fly]

Poss’, i think we can have it if we sign the form and post
it in to steinberg. either digitally or on paper. it will
be on an individual basis. i have to remember to do it !

don’t know if Atom got his use back as before. must assume so.
(but i’ll look out for posts about this)

[dasfaker]

Here’s the form.

Download

[Quimquim]

Hi, Is everybody have to ask a license or only those who build a panel to use as a plugin?

Or is it as soon as we install CTRLR who, I presume, contain the Steinberg code?

Would be nice to clarify this for all pass, present and future users.

Also have a note well placed on the site to assure everybody is in a legal situation.

Stay tuned. Quimquim

[dasfaker]

Only when you distribute an exported VST instance, the rest of options don’t include any Steinberg code.

[Anonymous]

I talked to github the repo is back up without the VST code

[daimondamps]

Anonymous wrote:

I talked to github the repo is back up without the VST code

Dzięki Romek !

[Mr.ToR]

test

• This reply was modified 5 years, 4 months ago by Mr.ToR.

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