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May 27, 2013 at 7:27 pm #9314
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I can’t seem to post this on the full site.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.May 27, 2013 at 7:54 pm #9316Have you tried the tutorial on how to upload your panel ? http://ctrlr.org/uploading-a-new-panel/
May 27, 2013 at 8:06 pm #9317It didn’t work for me… but I will try again later.
May 31, 2013 at 10:18 pm #9459Hi There,
Could this panel be simplified to work with a standard JX-3P?
I’m new to this and sorry if my question is really dumb. I’m hoping to obtain one soon and I am looking for an alternative to the PG-200.
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https://soundcloud.com/lfo2vco/a-dark-crystalJune 2, 2013 at 12:37 pm #9495Back again,
Have the JX-3P now and it’s extremely easy to program from the from panel. So please ignore the above question.
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https://soundcloud.com/lfo2vco/a-dark-crystalJuly 20, 2013 at 9:23 pm #11029Back yet again,
I have modified Jinsai’s panel slightly and have attached it in case anyone is interested. I cannot take credit for anything other than some cosmetic and layout changes.
I have also increased the overall dimensions. Works very nicely with the Kiwi-3P. Many thanks to Jinsai for doing all the hard work.
CHECK TOTALLY REVISED PANEL NOW AVAILABLE IN DOWNLOADS
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https://soundcloud.com/lfo2vco/a-dark-crystalNovember 22, 2013 at 12:34 pm #15647OK this panel has been totally overhauled now. All the CC messages have been replaced with Sysex, also the panel responds to messages from the Kiwi-3P.
I have introduced Load Patch, Save Patch, Save As Patch, Rename Patch and Initialise Patch functions. There is also a feature to save and load patches to and from disk as Sysex files.
Quick demo movie here:
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https://soundcloud.com/lfo2vco/a-dark-crystalDecember 10, 2013 at 11:32 pm #16469OK the panel is now in Downloads, have fun all you Kiwi-3P owners!
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https://soundcloud.com/lfo2vco/a-dark-crystalDecember 11, 2014 at 12:54 am #33526this panel looks very promissing. What do you mean by: ” also the panel responds to messages from the Kiwi-3P.” ?
Is it possible to refresh the panel such that it sets the control according to what value they have on the 3p? I control the 3p with the kiwi patch editor. But to save everything in my DAW it would be convenient to use the panel. After I changed some parameters with the patch editor, how can I refresh the panel?
December 13, 2014 at 12:06 pm #33626ok… I get it know. When I load a new patch, the panel is refreshed.
But the workflow is not very nice. When I edit a patch using my controller then I have to store the patch (manually on the JX3P) first and then load again, in order to refresh the panel. When I use the panel to store the patch, then my changes will be lost, since it seems that it only saves the configuration displayed by the panel but not the actual configuration of the synth.
Is there a way to change the panel, such that it reacts on the controller? Is this even possible in ctrlr?
December 15, 2014 at 9:12 pm #33730Hi Upeter,
I am glad that you are finding some use for the panel even though you have a Kiwi Editor.
The panel updates the parameter settings on receipt of an Edit Buffer message from the Kiwi-3P. At various places in the panels scripts a command to send an Edit Buffer request are written in, such as when a new patch is selected.
The request is the Sysex message: f0 7f 7f 7f 60 01 00 03 f7
Indeed when parameter settings on the panel are saved to the Kiwi-3P these are gathered from the various knobs and compiled in to another Sysex dump that is sent to the Kiwi-3P, so you setting in the Kiwi’s Edit Buffer are overwritten.
I can see two possible solutions:
1) Add a button on the panel that sends only the Edit Buffer request above, when pushed this should update the panel to the Kiwi-3P’s current Buffer state.
2) Add a function to the Kiwi Editor that also sends the Edit Buffer request to the Kiwi-3P. I imagine that it is possible to alter the stored templates.I hope this is of assistance and good luck.
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https://soundcloud.com/lfo2vco/a-dark-crystalDecember 15, 2014 at 9:52 pm #33733Thank you for your help lfo2vco!
This brilliant panel made my workflow with the JX3P much better!I think both workarounds would do it!
However, I have a theoretical question. Since it is ctrlr who reads the messages from my controller and sends them to the synth, and since the messages are the same than the ones the panel generates, shouldn’t it be possible that the panel is updated when I change a parameter on the patch editor, without sending an edit buffer request? Is this in theory possible with ctrlr? I think this would also make it possible to record automations in a DAW. Wouldn’t it?
December 16, 2014 at 12:28 am #33739Not sure if that can be done if the panel parameters are controlled via Sysex, maybe if they are controlled by CC?
Jinsai (Anu Kirk’s) original panel on which mine is based, is at the top of this thread. He used MIDI CC for the parameters, download it and see if the knobs respond to your Kiwi Editor on his panel.
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https://soundcloud.com/lfo2vco/a-dark-crystalDecember 17, 2014 at 12:49 am #33801Thanks! I’ll try that!
December 17, 2014 at 12:52 am #33802another question: the lower part of the panel (assigning functions to the mod wheel). Is that supposed to work? Because when I klick on Cut off, nothing happens…
January 2, 2015 at 5:20 pm #34760Another question: It seems that no all the parameters can be automated in ableton live. For example OCS Pitch can be but Filter Cut off can not.
Is this a bug in the panel or in ctrlr?January 5, 2015 at 1:32 am #34936Hi, sorry I have not used the panel as a VST and do not have Ableton, so it could be either or just an incompatibility issue.
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