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  • #429
    dasfaker
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      Finally I’m finishing the panel of the Virus Snow.

      A hard work, since I haven’t found the sysex documentation and I had to guess almost all the bytes for the sysex dump, and still there is an important amount of bytes I haven`t identified (i hope all of them are reserved). After the sysex dump of a patch the sound seems the same.

      It has almost all the functionality of Virus Control, except some features(the use of the usb outputs, drag of envelopes and arpeggiatgor steps and the graphical representation of the classic oscillators, and works with only 1 part).

      I wanted a panel with all the controls on view, to use it with a bcr2000 and don’t have to use the mouse to have visual representation of the knob movements, and at the end I almost run out of space, you will need a big screen resolution.

      I need to test the panel more deeply before uploading here.

      #3218
      Filch
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        All I can say is, WoW. This is unbelievable. I’m in awe.

        I can’t wait to get my hands on this just to glean some design and programming knowledge from this.

        #3219
        msepsis
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          This panel is absolutely stunning.
          Great work!!!

          Monstrum Media | Music, Sound & Software Design, Chicago / San Francisco listen

          #3220
          dasfaker
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            Thx both !!

            To be honest, all I know to do in Ctrlr is thanks to Atom examples and your two panels.

            The panel is no finished, but I anyone find it useful,here it is.

            [url:1qd1uc7x]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YD7744RN[/url:1qd1uc7x]

            The scripts aren’t commented, so if you have any question ask me.

            By the way, has anyone here a Virus TI to test the panel?

            #3221
            dnigrin
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              *Really* nice! I wish had a Virus… And I wish I had those graphics abilities…

              #3222
              jdieks
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                Is this meant to complement the VST for automation? so if you send this over midi to the virus, will it update the vst?

                #3223
                dasfaker
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                  This panel is meant to replace Virus Control and use the Virus not as a Vst, but as a normal midi synth. The panel uses the Virus Midi in/out, not the usb connection. When you use Virus Control (vst mode) the midi in/out are disabled.

                  #3224
                  doshult
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                    This looks great! Good work!

                    I have a virus TI2 and I’m gonna test this editor today. I’ll get back to you with the results.

                    #3225
                    dasfaker
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                      Everything should work except the bank arrangement (I think is different from the Snow) and the outputs (the Snow has fewer outputs).

                      #3226
                      darlock
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                        Awesome panel. It very similar to vst plugin from acces-music site.
                        Can you explain how you make you own grafic?

                        #3227
                        dasfaker
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                          Thx. I’ve used Photoshop for the design and Knobman for the knobs and sliders

                          #3228
                          Layzer2
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                            If you are not already getting paid as a computer graphics designer, look into it, seriously.
                            nice work!

                            #3229
                            dasfaker
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                              Thank you. In fact I work in a related job, and I have been using Photoshop since version 3, many years ago.

                              I wish I was as prolific as you making panels, I have several synths here awaiting…

                              #3230
                              msepsis
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                                it is a nice looking panel, I was really impressed with how closely you mimicked the look/feel and functionality of the actual access panel:
                                http://virus.info/page/render/lang/en/p … ug_in.html

                                Are there things that this panel does that the access panel doesnt? I was trying to get my brother onboard who uses this synth but he doesn’t see any need for it since the access panel already fully integrates the synth into a daw.

                                Anxious to see your upcoming panels, das!

                                Monstrum Media | Music, Sound & Software Design, Chicago / San Francisco listen

                                #3231
                                dasfaker
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                                  The virus works in two ways. With VirusControl, the access panel, it works like a vst thru usb. In this mode, the normal midi ports are disabled and all clock stuff is done by VirusControl. This is were a lot of people are having troubles with syncro and latency.

                                  The other way to use the Virus is like a normal midi synth, with the classical midi ports. In this case you can’t use VirusControl, so there is no editor for the Virus if you want to use in this way.

                                  Another problem with VirusControl is that not all the parameters have automation, the only way to access them is thru sysex, and again this must be done without VirusControl. With VirusControl you can’t change programs or banks with program change messages, so you can’t automate this. Having the Snow only four parts, this is a must.

                                  Even more, I use Ableton and it doesn’t accept sysex messages even with Max4Live, so Ctrlr was the only solution to those problems. If you want to use the Virus live, without latency and with good syncro, you can’t use VirusControl. The only thing I will miss from VC are the multiple usb outs.

                                  #3232
                                  msepsis
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                                    well damn good work offering a workaround to what sounds like a flimsy controller. VirusControl sounds like it falls short in offering "total integration" <img decoding=” title=”Smile” />

                                    It’s interesting to see more synth manufacturers realize the need for tighter integration between their synths and the daws out there. . . it’s been a long time coming. It’s interesting to see how they’re starting to finally wake up to the reality that they now need to compete for market share with synth emulator vsts… Who would have ever thought.

                                    Obviously Moog has already caught wind of ctrlr and was threatened enough by what it offers to ask atom to remove the "Moog" logos from all the old ctrlrs he had posted on google code. Moog is already developing panels for their synths and a few extra tools which look awesome and work really well.. I’m willing to bet that if alternate panels such as those coming out using things like ctrlr, max/msp and synthmaker weren’t around the bar would be pretty low for synth manufacturers – and das, this panel, if/when access catches wind of it will inevitably raise the bar for them to compete with.

                                    good work using ctrlr to develop this, contrary to what you said about wishing you were more prolific making panels, I think this was a damn good showing of using ctrlr’s tools and Lua integration to put together a very creative solution. Like I said when I first saw what you had posted – it looks stunning!! I’ll bet that’s a blast to play with!

                                    Monstrum Media | Music, Sound & Software Design, Chicago / San Francisco listen

                                    #3233
                                    dasfaker
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                                      I didn’t want to give the impression that VirusControl works bad. In fact, in my computer works fine, and do all the adds says. But it’s like any other vst, with the problems of vsts (latency specially). Access should make a VirusControl without audio to let you choose the way to go.

                                      I’m very grateful about your words, mainly because I have little experience programming and about sysex (seems that your Waldorf panel is way more complicated in this area). Anyway, if I can help you (or anyone) with anything please ask. And excuse my English <img decoding=” title=”Confused” />

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                                      doshult
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                                        This is a great panel! However there are a few bugs when using it with the Virus TI2 OS ver 4.1.1.0.5. Here are a some of the things I noticed that does not work when I turn the knobs:

                                        -Osc 3, semitone, detune, wave select
                                        -Reverb knobs go to Arp loop points instead of reverb send, time, damping
                                        -Filters, when you change filter 1 resonance, env amount or key follow it changes for both filters, not just the selected filter, filter 2 cutoff does not work
                                        -Unison detune does not work as well as the other Unison options
                                        -selecting type of Character FX
                                        -ARP Mode does not respond, ARP resolution responds but values are off, Note length goes to Swing instead

                                        Please don’t take this as criticism. I am only trying to help in ironing out any bugs, since this panel would be extremely useful for me personally. Thanks for your work!

                                        By the way, are you using OS 4.5 on your Virus Snow?

                                        /Magnus

                                        #3235
                                        dasfaker
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                                          Hi doshult.

                                          I appreciate you take the time to test the panel, I’m not offended at all.

                                          In the first place, the panel if for OS 4.5. I have it installed in my Snow (beta version) and works perfect. I haven’t tested the panel with an older version, so I don’t know if it will work. What I know is that in very old versions (may be before v3) some parameters aren’t governed by the same sysex string or cc as in newer versions, and some of them are Unison, Reverb and Arp parameters that I remember (what is causing that old patches not always load right).

                                          ASAP I’ll upload a new version of the panel (today I think) that should work fine with all modulators, but always in os 4.5, and the Virus in single mode.

                                          #3236
                                          doshult
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                                            "dasfaker":w4jm0wya wrote:
                                            Hi doshult.

                                            I appreciate you take the time to test the panel, I’m not offended at all.

                                            In the first place, the panel if for OS 4.5. I have it installed in my Snow (beta version) and works perfect. I haven’t tested the panel with an older version, so I don’t know if it will work. What I know is that in very old versions (may be before v3) some parameters aren’t governed by the same sysex string or cc as in newer versions, and some of them are Unison, Reverb and Arp parameters that I remember (what is causing that old patches not always load right).

                                            ASAP I’ll upload a new version of the panel (today I think) that should work fine with all modulators, but always in os 4.5, and the Virus in single mode.[/quote:w4jm0wya]

                                            Ok, thanks! I haven’t updated my Virus OS to 4.5 yet since it’s still in beta. Maybe that would solve all of the above. Meanwhile I’ll try the new version of the panel.

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