Some updates

[atom]

Well as you can see some builds are there and more are coming soon.

New features:
- no audio settings anymore, just midi
- midi feedback (sysex and nrpn for now, others midi types soon)
- a Dashboard component that lets you create additional controllers, this one will become the Ctrlr engine in the future
- re-written engine
- more options
- bank/program change menu in the top right corner that might come handy
- you can check for updates in the About dialog
- all UIs are inside a Viewport, you can enable/disable scrollbars if you can't see the whole editor and scroll around freely
- a lot of code changes i can't remember now

all this is experimental and not tested, i know there are a lot of bugs and missing code that i will be adding in time

[jamie8286]

- a Dashboard component that lets you create additional controllers, this one will become the Ctrlr engine in the future

Hi atom what is this? Is it to add new features to the plugins?

[atom]

If i miss some controller or there are parameters i missed you can add them here. This is also a test platform in theory you should be able to create your own ctrlr in the dashboard, once it's completed that will replace the whole Ctrlr engine, you will be able to create any Ctrlr on your own without any programming.

[snk]

Thank you for your work, Atom.

[jamie8286]

Ah cool got ya thats great because I dont have any knowledge of programming . How long does it take you to make one of these controllers? Is it hard to do?

[atom]

depends, if it's simple CC messages it takes a few hours, if it's complicated sysex messages then a few days. also the UIs are problematic cause i'm very bad ad UI design, if i didn't do UI it would be much faster.

some screens in a fancy 3d space: picasa/

[jamie8286]

Cool got ya i might have a look into seeing if i can have ago at something time to have a good read i think

some screens in a fancy 3d space: picasa/

Looks a bit like Cooliris picture viewer for firefox.

[Charlemagne]

Looking forward to the Tetra Mac version! Unless that's already up? I couldn't find it...

[atom]

nope just windows for now, i need more time with the mac builds, but soon.

[axm311]

I could not transmit knob data for the TX81Z ctrl

this could be a problem with settings, but i tested in standalone and vst mode

i am on
windows xp
motu midi xpress 8x8
cubase 4.5

strange because i can transmit note on/off, pitch bend and mod wheel but nothing else via the knobs, nor program change or send. i'm aware that because of the multiclient issues with the motu this can make things difficult in a vst host, but in standalone that shouldn't be an issue

looking forward to checking out the blofeld one when available

[DBM]

Any time frame for OSX Builds ?

Also still looking forward to your ION/Micron/Miniak editor !

Not to sound impatient just curious .

If It matters All the DSI's, Alpha Juno and XIO are the ones I am waiting for


Keep up the great work !

[atom]

i did the first mac build today and the VST version seems to work, the AU needs a bit more work, i have some time off till the end of the week so i'll be fixing stuff.

[axm311]

I could not transmit knob data for the TX81Z ctrl

this could be a problem with settings, but i tested in standalone and vst mode

i am on
windows xp
motu midi xpress 8x8
cubase 4.5

strange because i can transmit note on/off, pitch bend and mod wheel but nothing else via the knobs, nor program change or send. i'm aware that because of the multiclient issues with the motu this can make things difficult in a vst host, but in standalone that shouldn't be an issue

looking forward to checking out the blofeld one when available

hmm same problem with blofeld, bummer

midi light on blofeld is responding but no changes in sound

[atom]

the blofeld never worked, i guess the sysex implementation was wrong... but i gave you a new tool - the dashboard
try to find the right sysex midi message type and post it here i'll be able to update the rest.

[SepticUnderground]

@Atom:

are you gonna do standalone's in the OSX releases besides AU too?

I really like too have the editors outside Logic on a seperate (spaces)screen for editing. The Audiounit editor adds a unwanted track ( itrigger my synths audio and mid from one audio object now) The editor would add one track per synth in my enviroment thats got too much objects already as it is


On OSX midi ports can be accessed from different apps at the same time so that is no prob.

Anyways thanks for the OSX support ofc...

[atom]

yeah i'm leaving standalone for now it's quicker to debug without the host.

[axm311]

the blofeld never worked, i guess the sysex implementation was wrong... but i gave you a new tool - the dashboard
try to find the right sysex midi message type and post it here i'll be able to update the rest.

oh cool! (the dashboard).

I was able to map a few parameters so I may be able to do a crude mockup of the GUI using this tool though i just have to figure out how to do Mod destination dropdowns etc

not sure what you mean by sysex midi message, i used ccs. here is an example of a slider i made:

<modulator name="Osc 1 Semitone" type="cc" number="28"/>

Min Val - 52
Max Val - 76

[atom]

there is only 128 CCs available in the MIDI specs, blofeld has load more parameters, CCs are only for quick editing stuff. Blofeld uses SysEx for control, for ex:

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<modulator name="bldOsc1Octave"         type="sysex"  formula="f0 3e 13 g1 20 g2 00 01 xx f7" />


but i don't think the bytes are right since the unit is not reacting to this, i propably understand something wrong, or the g1/g2 params need to have some specific values i don't know (right now they will be 0 cause i have not yet created the global modulator in the new engine)

[tmc]

Thanks again for getting those new builds up. If you need someone to test the Xio, I would be more than happy to do that for you.

[atom]

Some more changes
- added a revision file to each ZIP archive so you know witch archive is witch revision (inside the file is the build time)
- as simple yet useful feature, you can provide your own XML file to each Ctrlr, just create a XML file in the Ctrlr format and put it in the same directory as the Ctrlr binary and name it like the Ctrlr file but give it a XML extension, example

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ctrlr: DSI - Evolver.exe
XML: DSI - Evolver.xml


Ctrlr will pick this file and load it instead of the built in modulator map, thanks to that you can now test your own SysEx messages if i give you wrong ones, you can fix errors before i publish new builds with fixes, and most important once you fix/upgrade something you can let us know so i can add the fix/upgrade to the releases
- a View->Reset size option if your Ctrlr gets too big so you can bring it back to it's original built-in size (you can always delete the preferences directory and it will reset too, that's just a handy option)

that's it for now

[atom]

Some more changes
- added a revision file to each ZIP archive so you know witch archive is witch revision (inside the file is the build time)
- as simple yet useful feature, you can provide your own XML file to each Ctrlr, just create a XML file in the Ctrlr format and put it in the same directory as the Ctrlr binary and name it like the Ctrlr file but give it a XML extension, example

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ctrlr: DSI - Evolver.exe
XML: DSI - Evolver.xml

or

ctrlr: DSI - Tetra.dll (vst version)
XML: DSI - Tetra.xml


Ctrlr will pick this file and load it instead of the built in modulator map, thanks to that you can now test your own SysEx messages if i give you wrong ones, you can fix errors before i publish new builds with fixes, and most important once you fix/upgrade something you can let us know so i can add the fix/upgrade to the releases. The file is loaded only on start/load so you need to reload the whole application or plugin for it to work. To revert back to the original mapping just delete/rename the file.

- a View->Reset size option if your Ctrlr gets too big so you can bring it back to it's original built-in size (you can always delete the preferences directory and it will reset too, that's just a handy option)

that's it for now

[Charlemagne]

Hi - thanks for putting the Tetra Mac version up! I'm having a little trouble getting it to work - it seems to get input messages fine from my USB keyboard, but I don't think anything is setting set to the Tetra (even though it is selected as the Output). This is in standalone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not sure how to properly set up the AU in Logic (do I use an Instrument Track)?

Thanks for doing this! If you create a PayPal donation link, I'd love to support this effort.

[atom]

I just updated the MAC builds so please download the Tetra again you should download revision 1395 and it should work (there was a bug in the earlier builds)

As for the Logic stuff, don't ask me i think that the name of the program "Logic" is misleading there is nothing logical about that program, i'm a windows kinda guy myself, so maybe someone else will help you.

[DBM]

Novation Xio Mac build ?

[atom]

the XIO never worked from what i remember, at least noone ever reported it to work, i can do the mac builds but i'd need some help in getting it to work.