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September 23, 2017 at 1:38 am #73049
Here is an example of the “SIZE” parameter for the PCM-70
It is sending a Sysex string as follows:
Sysex:Lexicon:PCM-70:MIDI CHANNEL 1: PARAMETER 03: MSB:LSB:EOX
F0 06 00 20 03 MS LS F7
The data range for the size parameter is given in the Lexcon manual as from 488 to 537
I simply set the component minimum value to 488 and maximum to 537
I manually entered the “Slider Contents” to match the PCM-70s displayed values
3.5m=488
4.2m=489
4.9m=490
5.6m=491
6.3m=492
7.1m=493
7.8m=494
8.5m=495
9.2m=496
9.9m=497
10.6m=498
11.3m=499
12.0m=500
12.7m=501
13.4m=502
14.2m=503
14.9m=504
15.6m=505
16.3m=506
17.0m=507
17.7m=508
18.4m=509
19.1m=510
19.8m=511
20.5m=512
21.3m=513
22.0m=514
22.7m=515
23.4m=516
24.1m=517
24.8m=518
25.5m=519
26.2m=520
26.9m=521
27.6m=522
28.4m=523
29.1m=524
29.8m=525
30.5m=526
31.2m=527
31.9m=528
32.6m=529
33.3m=530
34.0m=531
34.7m=532
35.5m=533
36.2m=534
36.9m=535
37.6m=536
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You must be logged in to view attached files.September 23, 2017 at 8:09 am #73051Thanks for this and no checksum necessary I see in the case of the PCM-70
September 23, 2017 at 8:48 am #73053ah, so your parameter values do follow in regular increments, then.
sorry, don’t know what i was thinking of. 😀good find.
would a checksum ‘z(n)’ byte have done the job with this, if it
was needed?September 23, 2017 at 2:11 pm #73054So weird.. when I change the uiSlider to a uiFixedSlider I can no longer adjust the thumb width or height?
Is this a BUG?
September 23, 2017 at 2:53 pm #73055no. by the look of things, it wasn’t given the same features
as a regular slider. that’s a shame. that’s worth a ‘request’.
you also can’t swap it for an image strip, which would’ve
been a way round it. damn.September 23, 2017 at 3:04 pm #73057tried fixedimage slider. doesn’t seem to move an imagestrip.
can’t see the point of that. does allow you to copy in your
own list.September 23, 2017 at 3:08 pm #73058Thanks for confirming, I posted a request..
Also, when I right click on a panel, the menu that appears has the “Add Component” menu as a sub-menu within the “Replace With” menu.
If you try to Add a component from the Add Component menu any component you select will replace the entire panel with that one component.There is no other menu to add components, and this menu is only able to replace an existing component.
Shouldn’t the “Add Component” menu be at the top level of that sub menu?
Is this a BUG?
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You must be logged in to view attached files.September 23, 2017 at 3:31 pm #73061no, you’re doing ‘replace with’. you can just rightclick
on the workspace and add a new component.
i also didn’t find it replaced all components.by the way: in fact i do have some animation in the
fixedimage slider. haven’t tried to get it all to
work smoothly yet, but you should be able to get a
multiframe image to do the job of the onboard slider.
this means making a fader or knob with knobman, and
exporting the image strip as a *.png file, that you
add to Ctrlr using the resources tab and ‘add’.you need to know your frame size so you can enter it
in Ctrlr properties box, and then you set the params
until it displays properly.did notice that the value range minmax for these fixed
sliders is shown as 0-1 … ?? even when you’ve add the
list of values.September 23, 2017 at 6:27 pm #73062Where do I add a component by right clicking? The only menu I see is the one I posted above, ans the “Add Component” choice is a sub menu of the “replace” menu.
So confusing…September 23, 2017 at 7:32 pm #73063don’t know what version you’re running, but i just
rightclick anywhere on the workspace and get
‘add component’ list.just did it again to check… yep.. 🙂
funny how it’s not add modulator, huh.
Ctrlr thing: you add a component, and then it creates a
Modulator for itself as its ‘container’, i guess.
different set of attributes/properties.September 23, 2017 at 7:47 pm #73064I’m running the latest version I could find for OSX:
Version = 5.3.198, Build date = Tue Mar 15 15:53:07 PDT 2016, Branch = Nightly, Juce = 4.0.2, libusb = 1.0.19, liblo = 0.28,
September 23, 2017 at 7:52 pm #73065well i’m pretty sure an older version i was running before
on PC did that too. have Version: 5.4.29 atm.what, you mean you cannot rightclick on the workspace and
create an object? how did you create your FIRST object?
(before you wanted to ‘replace’ it?)September 23, 2017 at 8:05 pm #73066So weird..
If I create a a NEW panel I get the option to add a component, If I right click on an existing panel – over the background – I get only the “replace” option, however if I click over the unpopulated “grid” area I get the option to add a component, but I cannot drag it to the existing panel, it seems to go beneath it..
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You must be logged in to view attached files.September 23, 2017 at 8:28 pm #73068haaang on a minute…’workspace’, i mean the grid area.
if you rightclick on the UITABS you are rightclicking on a component already,
so you are trying to replace THAT.any help?
you should be able to drag an unlocked modulator onto a uiTabs
or uiGroup. it’s a bit buggy, where it lands: you’ll find it
lands at one spot, and then you click on it, and it can jump right
out of reach sometimes. there’s a knack to it; i know what it is
when i’m doing it but can’t recall exactly enough right now to
say. not too much hassle once you’re used to it.i don’t understand why it’s going UNDER it, unless you’re just
missing it somehow. you should be able to drag objects onto
these with out any hassle.September 23, 2017 at 10:35 pm #73071Thanks.. learning curve, terminology, lack of documentation, so many questions.>!!!!
September 23, 2017 at 10:57 pm #73072sorted, then?
try this software, to make a simple imagestrip knob.
https://www.g200kg.com/jp/software/knobman.html
(get the 1.51 version, not the java – oh, does it work
for Mac? …)
make a simple knob, you’ll see how it works, then export
the *.png, as a vertical or horizontal strip. Ctrl accepts
both i think. then you can make a fiexed imaged slider and
have your values as you want.
this is a great program. and skinman is great for making
panel backgrounds. similar in some ways to Ctrlr, in that
items are positioned with coordinates. you can do a lot with
it.(i’m avoiding it at the mo’, have spent a lot of time
making stuff with both, so i’m trying to do it all inside
Ctrlr these days)
you can jazz up whatever you do with Ctrlr if you want.
personally, i think you can make a decent UI with Ctrlr
alone – maybe one or two images for complex things, but
most other things, Ctrlr will do. much easier to blend
colours, in Ctrlr, for instance.September 23, 2017 at 11:05 pm #73073Thanks so much. To be honest, some of the panels I’ve downloaded are missing their .png knobs, and come up with a “resource missing” error… I’d rather get the beast working then worry about the beauty..!
I’m still struggling to understand how to get the parameter names and values to show in a DAW.. Can you help?
So many of the fields in Ctrlr have illegible text and no definitions I can find, so It’t hard to figure anything out without a lot of guessing..
Is this parameter related? What is the syntax?
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You must be logged in to view attached files.September 23, 2017 at 11:28 pm #73078*.bpanelz are wrapped *.panels with their ‘resources’ (images, fonts etc.)
and are saved differently – see save options: export binary, i think (forget..)all of those sometimes lengthily-named (attributes, i now call them, but)
properties have some use, at some point, depending on how deep you want to
go. for now, just use what you have a use for, is my advice. most will be
pretty obvious.syntax? code, etc., i don’t know j*ck s**t about programming, tbh, as
any of the old hands here will confirm ! i get by bodging copies of
what other people have done, and after much headscratching you can
figure out some useful ..’stuff’.i don’t think i could do step1
without copying and amending. i have studied and tweaked methods
in other panels until i get them to do what i need. i’ve looked at
online tutorials on Lua, but that was less help, as it didn’t refer
directly to the thing i wanted to move on with: Ctrlr. but it’s
really cool to learn something, and get something to work.
generally, i’ve messed around with little side ‘panels’, focusing
on getting that thing to work, before working it into my main
project. lots of detours. and i’m still not confident i can ‘get’
a full patch dump, and send it to screen controls, or build a
patch to send to the device. slowly working up to that. that is
about handling tables and getting them to emit, and concatenate
bytes, etc etc.
basically: it’s hard to work on a UI while you’re considering
how to learn to do that: doing several things at once when
you have one brain that tends to monotask when you’re focusing.so i’d suggest keeping things simple for now. if you have the
lexicon responding to sysex satisfactorily, go with that.
worry about the Lua only for what you need it for, get a
working panel done, and make it more sophisticated later,
if you feel you want to.September 23, 2017 at 11:34 pm #73079Ah, sounds like we’re in the same boat…
I’ll keep plugging away and see what I can learn..
September 24, 2017 at 10:15 am #73086hi
here’s what i’m working on, to have a look at, maybe for later.
to give an idea of some things that are possible without knowing
too much about ‘coding’/scripting. this is mainly stuff i’ve
borrowed from panels and messed around with, as i learn gradually.recommend you crack on as you are for now, without getting bogged
down taking big detours with too much Lua, but there are quite a
few useful things in here, and it should illustrate a bit how things
work, if you can figure out what’s going on:
(D-110 editor in progress, just added old rhythm parameters tab)
https://app.box.com/s/0me1ktyjlknszpve7oxrnasenkt8ywtu -
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