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  • #73049
    zmix
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      Here is an example of the “SIZE” parameter for the PCM-70

      It is sending a Sysex string as follows:

      Sysex:Lexicon:PCM-70:MIDI CHANNEL 1: PARAMETER 03: MSB:LSB:EOX

      F0 06 00 20 03 MS LS F7

      The data range for the size parameter is given in the Lexcon manual as from 488 to 537

      I simply set the component minimum value to 488 and maximum to 537

      I manually entered the “Slider Contents” to match the PCM-70s displayed values

      3.5m=488
      4.2m=489
      4.9m=490
      5.6m=491
      6.3m=492
      7.1m=493
      7.8m=494
      8.5m=495
      9.2m=496
      9.9m=497
      10.6m=498
      11.3m=499
      12.0m=500
      12.7m=501
      13.4m=502
      14.2m=503
      14.9m=504
      15.6m=505
      16.3m=506
      17.0m=507
      17.7m=508
      18.4m=509
      19.1m=510
      19.8m=511
      20.5m=512
      21.3m=513
      22.0m=514
      22.7m=515
      23.4m=516
      24.1m=517
      24.8m=518
      25.5m=519
      26.2m=520
      26.9m=521
      27.6m=522
      28.4m=523
      29.1m=524
      29.8m=525
      30.5m=526
      31.2m=527
      31.9m=528
      32.6m=529
      33.3m=530
      34.0m=531
      34.7m=532
      35.5m=533
      36.2m=534
      36.9m=535
      37.6m=536
      38.3m=537

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      #73051
      dnaldoog
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        Thanks for this and no checksum necessary I see in the case of the PCM-70

        #73053
        human fly
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          ah, so your parameter values do follow in regular increments, then.
          sorry, don’t know what i was thinking of. 😀

          good find.
          would a checksum ‘z(n)’ byte have done the job with this, if it
          was needed?

          #73054
          zmix
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            So weird.. when I change the uiSlider to a uiFixedSlider I can no longer adjust the thumb width or height?

            Is this a BUG?

            #73055
            human fly
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              no. by the look of things, it wasn’t given the same features
              as a regular slider. that’s a shame. that’s worth a ‘request’.
              you also can’t swap it for an image strip, which would’ve
              been a way round it. damn.

              #73057
              human fly
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                tried fixedimage slider. doesn’t seem to move an imagestrip.
                can’t see the point of that. does allow you to copy in your
                own list.

                #73058
                zmix
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                  Thanks for confirming, I posted a request..

                  Also, when I right click on a panel, the menu that appears has the “Add Component” menu as a sub-menu within the “Replace With” menu.
                  If you try to Add a component from the Add Component menu any component you select will replace the entire panel with that one component.

                  There is no other menu to add components, and this menu is only able to replace an existing component.

                  Shouldn’t the “Add Component” menu be at the top level of that sub menu?

                  Is this a BUG?

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                  #73061
                  human fly
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                    no, you’re doing ‘replace with’. you can just rightclick
                    on the workspace and add a new component.
                    i also didn’t find it replaced all components.

                    by the way: in fact i do have some animation in the
                    fixedimage slider. haven’t tried to get it all to
                    work smoothly yet, but you should be able to get a
                    multiframe image to do the job of the onboard slider.
                    this means making a fader or knob with knobman, and
                    exporting the image strip as a *.png file, that you
                    add to Ctrlr using the resources tab and ‘add’.

                    you need to know your frame size so you can enter it
                    in Ctrlr properties box, and then you set the params
                    until it displays properly.

                    did notice that the value range minmax for these fixed
                    sliders is shown as 0-1 … ?? even when you’ve add the
                    list of values.

                    #73062
                    zmix
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                      Where do I add a component by right clicking? The only menu I see is the one I posted above, ans the “Add Component” choice is a sub menu of the “replace” menu.
                      So confusing…

                      #73063
                      human fly
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                        don’t know what version you’re running, but i just
                        rightclick anywhere on the workspace and get
                        ‘add component’ list.

                        just did it again to check… yep.. 🙂

                        funny how it’s not add modulator, huh.
                        Ctrlr thing: you add a component, and then it creates a
                        Modulator for itself as its ‘container’, i guess.
                        different set of attributes/properties.

                        #73064
                        zmix
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                          I’m running the latest version I could find for OSX:

                          Version = 5.3.198, Build date = Tue Mar 15 15:53:07 PDT 2016, Branch = Nightly, Juce = 4.0.2, libusb = 1.0.19, liblo = 0.28,

                          #73065
                          human fly
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                            well i’m pretty sure an older version i was running before
                            on PC did that too. have Version: 5.4.29 atm.

                            what, you mean you cannot rightclick on the workspace and
                            create an object? how did you create your FIRST object?
                            (before you wanted to ‘replace’ it?)

                            #73066
                            zmix
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                              So weird..

                              If I create a a NEW panel I get the option to add a component, If I right click on an existing panel – over the background – I get only the “replace” option, however if I click over the unpopulated “grid” area I get the option to add a component, but I cannot drag it to the existing panel, it seems to go beneath it..

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                              #73068
                              human fly
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                                haaang on a minute…’workspace’, i mean the grid area.
                                if you rightclick on the UITABS you are rightclicking on a component already,
                                so you are trying to replace THAT.

                                any help?

                                you should be able to drag an unlocked modulator onto a uiTabs
                                or uiGroup. it’s a bit buggy, where it lands: you’ll find it
                                lands at one spot, and then you click on it, and it can jump right
                                out of reach sometimes. there’s a knack to it; i know what it is
                                when i’m doing it but can’t recall exactly enough right now to
                                say. not too much hassle once you’re used to it.

                                i don’t understand why it’s going UNDER it, unless you’re just
                                missing it somehow. you should be able to drag objects onto
                                these with out any hassle.

                                #73071
                                zmix
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                                  Thanks.. learning curve, terminology, lack of documentation, so many questions.>!!!!

                                  #73072
                                  human fly
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                                    sorted, then?

                                    try this software, to make a simple imagestrip knob.
                                    https://www.g200kg.com/jp/software/knobman.html
                                    (get the 1.51 version, not the java – oh, does it work
                                    for Mac? …)
                                    make a simple knob, you’ll see how it works, then export
                                    the *.png, as a vertical or horizontal strip. Ctrl accepts
                                    both i think. then you can make a fiexed imaged slider and
                                    have your values as you want.
                                    this is a great program. and skinman is great for making
                                    panel backgrounds. similar in some ways to Ctrlr, in that
                                    items are positioned with coordinates. you can do a lot with
                                    it.(i’m avoiding it at the mo’, have spent a lot of time
                                    making stuff with both, so i’m trying to do it all inside
                                    Ctrlr these days)
                                    you can jazz up whatever you do with Ctrlr if you want.
                                    personally, i think you can make a decent UI with Ctrlr
                                    alone – maybe one or two images for complex things, but
                                    most other things, Ctrlr will do. much easier to blend
                                    colours, in Ctrlr, for instance.

                                    #73073
                                    zmix
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                                      Thanks so much. To be honest, some of the panels I’ve downloaded are missing their .png knobs, and come up with a “resource missing” error… I’d rather get the beast working then worry about the beauty..!

                                      I’m still struggling to understand how to get the parameter names and values to show in a DAW.. Can you help?

                                      So many of the fields in Ctrlr have illegible text and no definitions I can find, so It’t hard to figure anything out without a lot of guessing..

                                      Is this parameter related? What is the syntax?

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                                      #73078
                                      human fly
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                                        *.bpanelz are wrapped *.panels with their ‘resources’ (images, fonts etc.)
                                        and are saved differently – see save options: export binary, i think (forget..)

                                        all of those sometimes lengthily-named (attributes, i now call them, but)
                                        properties have some use, at some point, depending on how deep you want to
                                        go. for now, just use what you have a use for, is my advice. most will be
                                        pretty obvious.

                                        syntax? code, etc., i don’t know j*ck s**t about programming, tbh, as
                                        any of the old hands here will confirm ! i get by bodging copies of
                                        what other people have done, and after much headscratching you can
                                        figure out some useful ..’stuff’.i don’t think i could do step1
                                        without copying and amending. i have studied and tweaked methods
                                        in other panels until i get them to do what i need. i’ve looked at
                                        online tutorials on Lua, but that was less help, as it didn’t refer
                                        directly to the thing i wanted to move on with: Ctrlr. but it’s
                                        really cool to learn something, and get something to work.
                                        generally, i’ve messed around with little side ‘panels’, focusing
                                        on getting that thing to work, before working it into my main
                                        project. lots of detours. and i’m still not confident i can ‘get’
                                        a full patch dump, and send it to screen controls, or build a
                                        patch to send to the device. slowly working up to that. that is
                                        about handling tables and getting them to emit, and concatenate
                                        bytes, etc etc.
                                        basically: it’s hard to work on a UI while you’re considering
                                        how to learn to do that: doing several things at once when
                                        you have one brain that tends to monotask when you’re focusing.

                                        so i’d suggest keeping things simple for now. if you have the
                                        lexicon responding to sysex satisfactorily, go with that.
                                        worry about the Lua only for what you need it for, get a
                                        working panel done, and make it more sophisticated later,
                                        if you feel you want to.

                                        #73079
                                        zmix
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                                          Ah, sounds like we’re in the same boat…

                                          I’ll keep plugging away and see what I can learn..

                                          #73086
                                          human fly
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                                            hi
                                            here’s what i’m working on, to have a look at, maybe for later.
                                            to give an idea of some things that are possible without knowing
                                            too much about ‘coding’/scripting. this is mainly stuff i’ve
                                            borrowed from panels and messed around with, as i learn gradually.

                                            recommend you crack on as you are for now, without getting bogged
                                            down taking big detours with too much Lua, but there are quite a
                                            few useful things in here, and it should illustrate a bit how things
                                            work, if you can figure out what’s going on:
                                            (D-110 editor in progress, just added old rhythm parameters tab)
                                            https://app.box.com/s/0me1ktyjlknszpve7oxrnasenkt8ywtu

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