[bendy303]

I just found someone has already thought of using Ctrlr for a DAW or VST directly but they could not get membership on this forum, a bug?..thread is here

https://vi-control.net/community/threads/ctrlr.65074/

if you have not come across vi-control.net its a composer forum and has about a million monthy hits 🙂

[bendy303]

hi @dnaldoog only just noticed you had an attachment, yes thats nice, very clean and sharp. Thank you for that 🙂 now my girlfreind is threatening to leave me because I spend too much time staring at a screen….I should have a break :/ then I will be back!!

[bendy303]

yes I do a bit of coding (or rather I am a script kiddy) but never touched Lua before….as a composer I should really look into it

does your code work on the actual button label or does it create new grid? as Possemo said its nice to have a slight animation indicating that the button was pressed.

[bendy303]

Hi dnaldoog and possemo thanks for that. 🙂 The design feature missing from the button component is that it if using the label, it has to be next to the button, thus bad use of space…, and if using the button value for text on the button, it is not possible to change the font size or have multi-line text

[bendy303]

regarding Cubase and MIDI controlling the software menu and key commands… yes very cool. Its used by some big Hollywood composers and they set up a touchscreen to incease workflow – some examples are Hans Zimmer, Junkie XL (he is in top 10 now) and Lorne Balfe (who just recently did a kickass score for the latest Mission Impossible).

I had a smaller version of touch commands on an Android tablet then it died. So I figured out – the increased workflow is not because I use my fingers – (flicking a mouse is quicker) – it is the fact that you design the grid and workflow to how you think and create. So I dont need a touchscreen. I just need the custom grid. Ctrlr to the rescue!!

I am suprised nobody else has really thought of using Ctrlr for this before.

I intend on sharing the panel I make with this to other Cubase users online. Can also be used for other DAWS that accept function via MIDI (almost all of them).

check out the pics of Junkie Xls setup and Hans Zimmer also.
It is custom made software and not for sale, on a windows tablet…

My Hans Zimmer customized touch screen for cubase 6.5 pic.twitter.com/Z7hk4FnR

— Tom Holkenborg (@Junkie_XL) November 29, 2012

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[bendy303]

HI Possemo, thanks for your help.

you did not misunderstand the problem – you were correct. They were laid over the top originally and it was blocking the mouse clicking the button (perhaps a new release of Ctrlr could fix this – a label should not block a buttons functionality!!) .
I figured out I could put the buttons above the labels and use transparency to see the labels behind it.
However this is not an ideal solution because it means the text is not bold and sharp and the buttons colour is not vivid.

Is there another way?
Cheers

Ben

[bendy303]

update – I figured out by accident, that if I put the CC value under “Expression to evaluate when calculating the midi message value from modulator value” (in the xml its modulatorValueExpression= ) then it works.

cool!!!

is it possible to batch edit a panel seeing its xml with regular expressions? I know a bit about regex

cheers

Ben

[bendy303]

ok – I figured out how to send a CC using Hex – but this is no good – I have to enter over 1000 Cubase commands and their corresponding CC numbers – if I have to convert every single one to Hex it will take too long.

In the Modulator menu under “MIDI message type” there is CC as an option..so then there must be a way to use it and not Hex…

tips appreciated!!

🙂

Ben

[bendy303]

Hi Possemo,

Yes I would love to share.

I managed to make the button transparent with label behind it – but it seems like a cumbersome workaround –
it makes the text lighter. If you have a better suggestion I would love to know!!

some colour tests in attached panel.

Now though – I can only seem to send control values of an 0 and 1 as an on/ off switch. I have How can I just send one control value? I have “MIDI controller value” set to 127 but it doesnt work.

I think using Ctrlr has more uses than hardware.

I was previously actually using a tablet with a Lemur template called Metagrid but my tablet broke 🙁

So then I thought about it – the amount of time it takes for my finger to go to the touchscreen is actually slower than using my gaming mouse – and the main reason for using my Cubase macro grid is that I can arrange the key commands occording to my chosen workflow (instead of Cubases’s annoying menu system, there are just too many key commands to memorise for the computer keyboard). So if I can replicate the Lemur grid on Ctrlr I just use my gaming mouse and its actually faster than my tablet. But also this could be used with a windows tablet too. IF Ctrlr is also able to do the Mackie control format than there is a whole new world for Ctrlr!!

so would love to know

a) how to send a CC value that is not just 0/1 switch, but a single value (can this be done without sending a multi message sysex?)

b) a better way of making the label on top of the button

cheers!!

Ben

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update – ok I managed to get the label multiline and on top of the button – but now the label prevents the button from sending data. If I uncheck “Name Label Always on Top” then it works again, but then the label text is behind the button and hard to read. See attached screenshots

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