[Gnasher]

“Anyway, I’d still say that it is well coded. ”

Agreed, it’s a huge step forward in making programming the 05r/W a joy for simpleminded peeps like me 🙂
I am looking forward to see your enhanced version.

[Gnasher]

Goodweather, with regard to the ‘new panel’, I guess we have to wait and see.
Personally I’m not looking forward to a HD version as it won’t fit my ole’ MacBook…

[Gnasher]

Hi Possemo, quite honestly I’m not that of a tech wizard. I figured out some stuff thanks to Goodweather forcing me, some of which was posted previously, but where exactly to adjust that typo is currently beyond my comprehension of this application.

Could you send me an adjusted version and send it, that would be grand.
I read that you meanwhile stumbled on the major problem, shame that can’t be solved within Ctrlr, but it ought to be possible as it is with other apps.

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Sucks right? Same reason for me for not responding as quick as I hoped to.
I’ll be patient 😉

[Gnasher]

From the Lua console after clicking ‘read prog names frm dev’:

Received all combi dump
Callback error: [midiParseReceived]
At line [68]: [string “Backup”]
What: Lua
Namewhat: global
Name: saveBackup
Error message: [string “Backup”]:68: attempt to index global ‘BackupfileToWrite’ (a nil value)
At line [68]: [string “Backup”]
What: Lua
Namewhat: global
Name: saveBackup
Error message: [string “Backup”]:68: attempt to index global ‘BackupfileToWrite’ (a nil value).
Method disabled

[Gnasher]

When clicked on edit mode while previously on program mode:

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
0020E48D 1 2 F0 Buffer: 8 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 4E 03 00 F7
0020E4FE 1 2 F0 Buffer: 194 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 40 00 50 69 61 6E 6F 20 31 00 36 27 20 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 01 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 06 3D 5C 5A 2D 0D 00 53 00
SYSX: 63 54 3A 60 28 00 63 0A 27 38 00 4B 29 00 02 00 57 40
SYSX: 62 59 00 00 27 02 02 06 06 00 00 00 00 33 0F 00 00 32
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 00 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 32 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 00
SYSX: 63 00 63 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 00 13 01
SYSX: 13 13 15 00 15 65 01 0F 63 07 03 00 00 0C 00 05 08 00
SYSX: 00 40 11 00 00 3C 3E 00 76 00 02 00 00 F7
0020E501 1 2 F0 Buffer: 10 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 41 00 00 00 00 F7
0020E504 1 2 F0 Buffer: 6 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 23 F7
0020E581 1 2 F0 Buffer: 6 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 23 F7
0020E584 1 2 F0 Buffer: 6 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 23 F7

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When clicked on edit mode while previously on combi mode:

TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
001F05A3 1 2 F0 Buffer: 8 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 4E 01 00 F7
001F060B 1 2 F0 Buffer: 162 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 49 00 41 74 6F 6D 69 63 20 00 53 75 6E 00
SYSX: 13 03 28 00 28 26 26 65 01 0F 3C 00 09 03 00 0A 00 00
SYSX: 00 00 00 00 1F 00 29 50 2E 00 00 01 01 00 00 28 63 00
SYSX: 00 00 0C 00 7F 00 7F 00 01 3E 00 11 15 00 00 00 12 00
SYSX: 7F 00 7F 01 3E 00 00 00 63 00 00 0F 00 00 7F 00 7F 01
SYSX: 3F 10 00 00 63 00 00 0F 00 7F 00 00 7F 01 3F 10 00 63
SYSX: 00 00 00 0F 00 7F 00 7F 01 00 3F 10 00 63 00 00 0F 00
SYSX: 00 7F 00 7F 01 3F 10 00 00 63 00 00 0F 00 7F 00 00 7F
SYSX: 01 3F 10 00 63 00 00 00 0F 00 7F 00 7F 00 01 3F 10 F7
001F060E 1 2 F0 Buffer: 10 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 41 00 00 29 00 F7
001F0610 1 2 F0 Buffer: 6 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 23 F7
001F066A 1 2 F0 Buffer: 6 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 23 F7
001F066C 1 2 F0 Buffer: 6 Bytes System Exclusive
SYSX: F0 42 30 36 23 F7

[Gnasher]

Meanwhile I have tested a second Korg 05R/W and it reacts the same. So finally I simply cannot understand how others users would not run into these same problems.

Anyhoo, same request again for confirmation if I understood you well:
F0 42 30 36 40 00 50 69 61 6E 6F 20 31 00 36 27 20 00 00 00 00 01 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 06 3D 5C 5A 2D 0D 00 53 00 63 54 3A 60 28 00 63 0A 27 38 00 4B 29 00 02 00 57 40 62 59 00 00 27 02 02 06 06 00 00 00 00 33 0F 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 00 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 32 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 00 63 00 63 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 00 13 01 13 13 15 00 15 65 01 0F 63 07 03 00 00 0C 00 05 08 00 00 40 11 00 00 3C 3E 00 76 00 02 00 00 F7

No inconsistancies.

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I’ve sent the request (F0 42 30 36 10 F7) and it is indeed 194 bytes long:

F0 42 30 36 40 00 50 69 61 6E 6F 20 31 00 36 27 20 00 00 00 00 01 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 06 3D 5C 5A 2D 0D 00 53 00 63 54 3A 60 28 00 63 0A 27 38 00 4B 29 00 02 00 57 40 62 59 00 00 27 02 02 06 06 00 00 00 00 33 0F 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 00 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 32 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 00 63 00 63 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 00 13 01 13 13 15 00 15 65 01 0F 63 07 03 00 00 0C 00 05 08 00 00 40 11 00 00 3C 3E 00 76 00 02 00 00 F7

[Gnasher]

Hi, hopefully I will be able to get back to you tonight on the matter.

[Gnasher]

ACK as in acknowledge?

I did one combined.

“If this is working then the issue could be a timing problem. The synth answering too fast for the panel to read the messages or the panel not waiting enough or …”

Could indeed be the case.

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Hope this is it…

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00 F0 42 30 36 1D 00 F7 is a sysex request for the combinations
00 F0 42 30 36 1C 00 F7 is a sysex request for the programs

As soon as I click ‘get programs from device’ under the ‘files & utilities’ tab it sends the first code. So clearly the programmer has made a typo here.
Unfortunately I have no idea where to change that as I am somewhat computer illiterate…

I did some checking though in the LUA editor, but could not find that specific typo under ‘Load(all)prog(s)fromdevice’

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When I click on ‘Read prog names from device’, the display on the module says ‘combination’ which I found odd. Ctrlr then gives a ‘Callback error’ as shown below.

While Ctrlr gave this error, I recorded the output in Sysex Librarian, and it shows that the module has indeed dumped the Combinations, rather than the Programs. In contrast with Ctrlr, Sysex librarian gave no errors, which I saved.

I loaded this Combination dump file under the File-Utilities tab of the 05r/w panel and it read the file without any issues.

So:
1. The ‘read program names’ should in fact go to the ‘combination’ section and an actual dump request for the ‘programs’ should be added in the ‘Program’ section.
2. Requesting a dump results into an error.

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As stated in the previous post, when I click on ‘read from device’ the monitor shows:
F0 42 30 36 4E 03 00 F7, followed by F0 42 30 36 10 F7.

So that should be correct. However, I receive the message:

Timeout.
No valid MIDI data received.
Check connections and MIDI settings.
Check GLOBAL -> 2C MIDI filter -> EX.ENA.

I can confirm it is set to ‘enabled’. This is the message a bunch of other users have encountered.

This time Ctrlr completely froze so I had to quit. After restart I tried it again, and it worked fine, at least with regard to the ‘program’.

As this worked I tried out ‘combination’ but it resulted in the same:

Timeout.
No valid MIDI data received.
Check connections and MIDI settings.
Check GLOBAL -> 2C MIDI filter -> EX.ENA.

Restored, repeated and it worked. I could even shift the combination numbers of the module in the Ctrlr interface buy pushing the up and down button (+1 and -1) on the module. The MIDI monitor shows that the module responded with sysex data.

I tried the same with ‘program’, but that didn’t work, at least not in the same manner; having selected ‘prog’ on the module I click the ‘up’ (+1) button for the next program, nothing happens, unless I click the ‘edit’ button on the module.

Note that this very rarely happens. In almost all of the cases I get the timeout message.

Anyhoo, back to the dump request from Ctrlr to the module.
When I click ‘Read program names from device’ sysex data is sent to the module.
The module responds with “processing”, active sensing freezes on the monitor window and I do not see any data going back to Ctrlr monitor.
Suddenly I see some data on the monitor, but the screen is immediately cleared from all data, so I am unable to see what has happened.

I look on monitor of MIDIoX in which I could see that the module in fact had indeed sent data. Ctrlr however did not respond to that.

Same goes for the ‘Backup’ option, while MIDIoX shows that the module is in fact dumping data, Ctrlr does not respond other than the previously mentioned timeout message.

So my conclusion would be a bug, either in Ctrlr or the Panel itself.

As soon as I have started fiddling with this the previous options (connection between combinations and programs of the module with Ctrlr) are lost.

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Right, ultimately tested it in MidiOX, and it works,
in CTRLR using the 05r/w panel by mdeca.
In that 05r/w panel > ‘program’screen, when clicking ‘read from device’ I see the following sysex in the CTRLR MIDI monitor window:

F0 42 30 36 4E 03 00 F7, followed by F0 42 30 36 10 F7

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[Gnasher]

Goodweather, thanks for responding. Although I did not manage to send a single line of sysex data with sysex librarian, I did a sysex dump both to and from the module. Worked like a charm, so no problem there.

Having recently tried Ctrlr again I haven’t managed to read or write anything anymore from and to the module contrary to when I started.

Tried several versions of Ctrlr now, using different cables, 5 different laptops, macOSX, windows 7, 8 and 10, different MIDI interfaces to no avail…

So, what would the next step be?

[Gnasher]

Having the same issues here since trying the first time last year. I tried both on a pc and a Mac and the problem occurs on both platforms. Today I tried JayB’s version which was initially for the X5DR but is supposed to be compatible with the 05R/w. I can confirm it doesn’t even open on a Mac 🙁

Has anyone with this issue had any luck yet?

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