[jasefos]

Looks good Layzer – I’m wandering how much similarity the Korg 05RW shares with the T series since I want to build an editor for my 05RW. 😉

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[jasefos]

Layzer – you absolutely rock!

Many thanks! I’ll have to search out this Knob Man tool. I tried watching your video on building the PG300 however it seems the resolution was a little too low to see precisely what’s happening however I get the idea however (clever piece of software).

Just a heads up – I accidentally stretched the dimensions of the background image with a mousing stuff up when I loaded it into the Panel as a background image. It’s true dimensions should be 1000 x 406 pixels. It’s making it look a little weird and degrades the quality of the image with that stretching. I figure it is functional at the moment (and I was dying to have a tweak and make some music) and I will fix that later since all the Modulators will need to be rescaled and repositioned to the proper dimensions.

In the days ahead I’m considering releasing a new version which edits both Tone Upper and Lower simultaneously (which is going to be awesome for making big fat Dual mode sounds). This will mean I’ll have to scale the GUI down a fair amount to avoid it taking too much screen realestate.

I’m thinking of moving the “global” Patch settings from the bottom strip of parameters to the top (Globals make more sense to me at the top!). Then I’ll be moving all parameters for Tone upper so they run in a single long horizontal strip with Tone Lower appearing in a long strip below it. In order to accomodate that (so it will fit on people’s monitors OK). The Photoshop master file I’m using is much higher resolution than the PNG I export to accommodate bigger displays (e.g. Retina)

Although this will be breaking away from the traditional layout of the MPG-80 I think it will be more intuitive and easier to compare parameters between Upper and Lower tones while editing.

Cheers

JaseFOS

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[jasefos]

Much progress over-night … attached to this post you’ll find the latest Panel file updated and accompanying background image resource it makes use of (10+ hours of Photoshop tweaking – fun!).

Incidentally, does anyone know how to embed image resources within a Panel file? It would be a better user experience if the background image was just a part of the Panel file.

Enjoy folks

Cheers!

JaseFOS

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[jasefos]

Howdy folks …

Just a progress update.

I’m re-skinning using the best photo I could find on Google images (the only fail is that the sliders are all in the same position so I can’t use Layzer’s Knob-Man technique to automate creating the fader/knob animation series). I’ve removed all the fader caps and painting/tracing over the original (after removing some perspective skew and getting rid of fader caps, etc). Looking nice and smooth so far!

My only challenge is finding the right matching font (the nearest on my system is Verdana which isn’t quite like the MPG80). I figure someone here might spot it right away/ Can anyone eyeball some close up MPG80 images and tell me what font would be right?

Cheers

JaseFOS

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[jasefos]

Layzer – thanks for posting this! Glad to see the technique you used! I’m about to head off to do a laser show in the city tonight (my other hat) but I’ll try out skinning with your technique once I return.

For the moment, here is the latest build (which now includes 4 Snapshot sounds which seem to work OK), better naming of Modulators (to match Roland’s MIDI SysEx Implementation chart in the MKS80 manual), fixes to some things not working as they should. I’ve included the dodgy background graphic this time.

Is there a way to save which includes embedded resources (perhaps this is visible somewhere in Layzer’s tutorial video which I’ll watch when I return)?

CHEERS

JaseFOS

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[jasefos]

Howdy Speed,

Would be keen to know if it works OK for your MKS80!
(currently only does Tone Upper at the moment but I will be adding Tone Lower as well)

If you had to time to snap a high resolution “over the panel” shot of your MPG80 that would be ace since most images I found on Google Images had too much perspective skew or were not of resolution sufficient. Personally I’m thinking it may be too difficult to photograph properly with even focus and I should just re-create the front panel using the image I have as a guide.

Cheers!

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[jasefos]

OK here is a 100% functional version of this Panel (all controls of MPG80 mapped to modulators and editing for Upper Tone only for the moment).

Next tasks:
– replace background image with a much sexier panel for the GUI.
– extend Panel to provide editing of Lower Tone.
– learn how to make Snapshots work so I can at least store sounds within DAW projects.
– learn LUI scripting.
– learn how to decode SysEx dumps back and forth from MKS80.
– make hit records.

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[jasefos]

I encountered this same issue as well while building my first panel (n00b error). Glad to know this was the only cause.

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[jasefos]

Actually I came across one stumbling block while making this panel which may help other Panel-Making-n00bs like myself … When you create additional controls by copying and pasting a control, the duplicated controls will have the same VST Index number. If controls have the same VST Index number you may discover moving one control moves other controls “ganged” which share the same VST Index number (I’m developing this using CTRLR running as a VST plugin within Live 9.1.1 with on OSX). So in summary, be sure each modulator in your Panel has a unique VST Index number otherwise you will end up with unintentionally ganged controls.

PS … I would love to find some doco on the Panel editor – in particular some of the properties for the controls are not immediately obvious in what they do!

• This reply was modified 10 years, 1 month ago by jasefos. Reason: grammatical

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[jasefos]

I searched Google Images for a good top view image of the MPG80 top panel and discovered a fairly rough image that looks like it may have been scanned from the owners manual (a line drawing). I figured I would start with that, using it as the background for the panel and imported it (and then later tidy up the image in Photoshop and re-import it in place). I’ve used the background image to size and place the knobs/sliders placing them over the top of each control as I worked to give me a guide.

I’ve used MIDI Monitor to watch SysEx strings incoming from the iPad Lemur’s MKS80 editor which has been fine for the most part. The only headscratching coming into play with regards to the way the Lemur has combined Polarity switches and amounts for some parameters into a single control where the MPG80 has separate controls (e.g. VCF Envelope Modulation amount on the Lemur version is a single bi-polar slider however on MPG80 there is a separate polarity switch and independent amount). I will consult the proper MKS80 MIDI SysEx implementation guide to see if that will give me better data to work with.

I have attached my “alpha” version so far to this thread so you can see where I’m at.

All controls present that you see have been tested and are verified working so far. Controls currently only target the Upper tone currently but I plan to create a Lower tone control panel to allow simultaneous editing of Upper and Lower tones (better to see parameters for both Upper and Lower at the same time I feel rather than flipping tabs).

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[jasefos]

OK just an update – I’ve had a few breakthroughs with my understanding of how to use the editor and now understand the proper “z4” token needs to be inserted in SysEx strings for the Roland checksum. So far the controls I’ve added to my panel are working (yay). It doesn’t look pretty yet however I’m pretty handy with Photoshop and have a background in graphic design so I will skin it to look identical to the MPG80 panel (but two panels high allowing tweaking of Upper and Lower Tones simultaneously) once it is 100% functional.

Just thought I should let others here know so that anyone else with a MKS80 wanting a panel doesn’t double up on the work I’m doing.

Actually it would be great to see a show of hands of MKS80 owners on this forum – just post back on this thread and I will be grateful for any testing you can do on beta versions.

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[jasefos]

This has been an informative thread – this will help demystify why I was having little luck with getting my MKS80 to respond (didn’t know about the Roland checksum issue and the correct tokens to insert).

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[jasefos]

Howdy Opuswerk,

Thanks for the reply! I too have decided a “from scratch” approach will yield a better understanding of CTRLr (since I’m a N00b here) and something which actually works.

Thanks for the well wishes.

Cheers

JaseFOS

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[jasefos]

Love your work here ATOM – wishing you all the best for your new dayjob and looking forward to seeing how your additional C++ skills you learn will see further growth in CTRLR.

Really digging CTRLR incidentally!
Thanks for bringing my rack mount analogue synths to life!

Cheers

JaseFOS

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[jasefos]

Korg and Alesis have announced new Keytar models at NAMM2014 – the alesis is cheap and chearful, the Korg is sexy and more expensive.

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[jasefos]

I’m having a similar issue with the Oberheim Matrix 1000 Panel by roman Kubiak version 0.2 on MacOSX 10.8.5 with Live 9.1.1 (CTRLR build 1655).

MIDI Channels for Input and Output are preserved however MIDI port settings are not – it would be great if these could be recalled properly so I can forget about the mechanics of routing after I have established these settings.

Cheers

JaseFOS (newbie!)

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