[sawan]

Came here looking to see if anyone had talked about doing an Roland MKS-80 panel and found your replies

Here are all the files I have relating to that Ctrlr: http://www.mediafire.com/?3vuslg1zbfda0ci

Can’t check them because I don’t have ctrlr installed, but good luck ;p

[sawan]

i got it working. basically the background has the off state image of the button already so i just wanted to be able to click that area and have the on state image come on. i’ll post it in the panels forum so you can see what i mean.

edit: done

[sawan]

yeah 617 isn’t working in ableton. just doesn’t show up after ableton scans it. previous vers. works. but since ctrlr v5 i haven’t been able to send midi out with the vst version anyway. in the old version with the file menu in the gui it was fine. i liked being able to select midi ports n stuff. also the randomize was cool too.

[sawan]

The ATC definitely uses sysex for certain parameters. That’s the reason Midiquest is able to control the things you can’t access with ccs.

[sawan]

Also your K4r would be appreciated by me! ” title=”Very Happy” />

[sawan]

I’d just like an editor for now. I actually posted the cc list in the thread Filch linked. There are plenty of things I can control already. It’s more stuff like lfo targets and a few other things which can only be done with sysex that I’m trying to figure out.

"Filch":1yp3q5s1 wrote:

I’m guessing that’s you turning the knob up by 1 each time.[/quote:1yp3q5s1]

Correct ” title=”Smile” />

Would it be possible for ctrlr to have some kind of learn function? i.e. Select a control in ctrlr, and with the correct midi in port selected, tweak the control on the synth to assign it. (maybe even sounddiver/midiquest routed in with midiyoke?)

Could it be possible for ctrlr to decode sysex?

[sawan]

in ableton i use a rack with an external instrument and ctrlr, only needs one track. very handy.

[sawan]

figured out a little work around in ableton

go into midi preferences and click the little arrow to the left of the port you want to use

in the drop down menu, click the port type button once so it changes

ctrlr should now be able to use this port. it’s great if you want to use the external instrument, i usually group one of those with the ctrlr plugin so it’s all on one track

not sure if this was obvious or w/e but it’s been handy for me

cheers

[sawan]

is there any backward compatibility with older ctrlr panels?

[sawan]

Sorry, I was talking to the OP!

[sawan]

care to share?

[sawan]

so is this useful to you? is there a way to convert this info into the usual format?

[sawan]

"atom":3obbzdr6 wrote:

I was wondering about the first part of data like: LFO1A EQU $03 LFO 1 ASSIGN 0 – 11 what does that mean ?
does that mean that CC03 is LFO1 assign and can have values 0-11 or is it a pointer to memory program data (3rd byte?)[/quote:3obbzdr6]

sorry, it’s all a lot easier to read in the text doc i uploaded to mediafire. i didn’t see that you could upload files here. i’ve attached them to this post.

i don’t actually know anything about sysex stuff so i just copied the info i read from the photocopies.

as far as i can tell the format is like this:

LFO1A_EQU_$03_LFO 1 ASSIGN_0 – 11

1st part is the parameter name for the device
2nd part -"EQU" i have no idea, but that’s what’s written in the thing the SE guy sent me. (have a look at the photocopies)
3rd part "$0_" i think this is the sysex number
4th part is full description
and 5th part is the min and max value

some of that is obvious, sorry.

"atom":3obbzdr6 wrote:

and the second part says "Stuff covered by ccs" and the question is the same, how should i interpret the data ? i see those $XX values are HEX, are theese CC numbers ?[/quote:3obbzdr6]

well this stuff is also sysex and formatted the same, as you can see, but most of it is covered by ccs already so I don’t know if it’s necessary to use sysex for those functions. as i said before i’m a noob when it comes to this stuff. is it usual for synths to have both sysex and ccs for the same function?

[sawan]

Ok, so here goes. I had a bit of trouble reading some of the text because it’s quite low res so I’ve zipped the files just in case they come in handy:

http://www.mediafire.com/?wdc8c4bwccb4dd9

Sorry for the formatting. The code thing got it the closest. I’ve included easier to read text & pdf files in the .zip

missing bits:

[code:2gsfma0n]LFO1A EQU $03 LFO 1 ASSIGN 0 – 11
LFO2A EQU $07 LFO 2 ASSIGN 0 – 11
MX1 EQU $0F OSC 1 MIX LEVEL 0 – 127
MX2 EQU $10 OSC 2 MIX LEVEL 0 – 127
E3AS EQU $24 ENV 3 ASSIGNMENT 0 – 13
E1DYN EQU $25 ENV 1 DYNAMIC 0 – 127
E2DYN EQU $26 ENV 2 DYNAMIC 0 – 127
E3DYN EQU $27 SENSITIVITY (7 BITS) 0 – 127
MTRIG EQU $28 MULTRG 0 – 1 (1 = ON)
PRISTAT EQU $29 NOTE ASSIGN PRIOR 0 – 1 (1 = LOW, 0 = LAST)
PBND EQU $2A OSC BEND RANGE 0 – 24 (IN SEMITONES)
FBND EQU $2B VCF BEND RANGE 0 – 24 (IN SEMITONES)
ENV1 EQU $2D ENV 1,3,1&3 INVERT 0 – 3
XPOS EQU $2E OCTAVE LO-MID-HI (0,1,2) 0 – 2
MODAS EQU $2F MOD ASSIGNMENT 0 – 15
MODAMT EQU $30 MOD AMOUNT SCALING 0 – 127
TCHAS EQU $31 TOUCH ASSIGN 0 – 15
TCHAMT EQU $32 TOUCH AMOUNT 0 – 127
AGLIDE EQU $33 AUTOGLIDE INTERVAL 0 – 48 (IN SEMITONES)
XMODST EQU $35 XMDO & XMODE BITS 0 – 3
MCLCK EQU $36 MIDI SYNC DIVISOR 0 – 8[/code:2gsfma0n]

stuff covered by ccs:

[code:2gsfma0n]GLIDE EQU $00 PRESET GLIDE TIME 0 – 127
LFO1R EQU $01 LFO 1 RATE 0 – 127
LFO1D EQU $02 LFO 1 DEPTH 0 – 127
LFO1WF EQU $04 LFO 1 WAVE FORM 0 – 5
LFO2R EQU $05 LFO 2 RATE 0 – 127
LFO2D EQU $06 LFO 2 DEPTH 0 – 127
LFO2WF EQU $08 LFO 2 WAVE FORM 0 – 5
FREQ1 EQU $09 OSC 1 FREQ 0 – 63 (IN SEMITONES)
FREQ2 EQU $0A OSC 2 COARSE FREQ 0 – 63 (IN SEMITONES)
FINE2 EQU $0B OSC 2 FINE 0 – 127 (+- 63 PSEUDO-CENTS)
PW1 EQU $0C OSC 1 PULSE WIDTH 0 – 127 (64 = SQUARE)
PW2 EQU $0D OSC 2 PULSE WIDTH 0 – 127
PSW EQU $0E OSC WAVE & SYNC BIT0=TRI1, BIT1=SAW1, BIT2=PULSE1 BIT3=TRI2, BIT4=SAW2, BIT5=PULSE2, BIT6=SYNC 2 TO 1. ALO (0) TURNS ON A WAVEFORM FOR THE SYNC FUNCTION.
MXX EQU $11 XMOD LEVEL 0 – 127
MXN EQU $12 NOISE MIX LEVEL 0 – 127
CTOFF EQU $13 FILTER CUTOFF 0 – 127 (IN SEMITONES)
RFS EQU $14 FILTER RESONANCE 0 – 127
FTRK EQU $15 FILTER TRACKING 0 – 127
ENV1 EQU $16 ENV 1 AMOUNT 0 – 127
ATK1 EQU $17 ENV 1 ATTACK 0 – 127
DK1 EQU $18 ENV 1 DECAY 0 – 127
SUS1 EQU $19 ENV 1 SUS 0 – 127
REL1 EQU $1A ENV 1 RELEASE 0 – 127
ATK2 EQU $1B “ 0 – 127
DK2 EQU $1C “ 0 – 127
SUS2 EQU $1D “ 0 – 127
REL2 EQU $1E “ 0 – 127
ATK3 EQU $1F “ 0 – 127
DK3 EQU $20 “ 0 – 127
SUS3 EQU $21 “ 0 – 127
REL3 EQU $22 “ 0 – 127
ENV3 EQU $23 ENV 3 AMOUNT 0 – 127
GLDST EQU $2C 1 = GLIDE ON 0 – 1
MODE2 EQU $34 OSC2 MODE 0 – 3
CSEL EQU $37 FILTER CART SELECT 0 – 3
8 CURRENTLY UNUSED BYTES[/code:2gsfma0n]

and some extra stuff:

LSTPAR EQU $3F LAST PROG PARAMETER CURRENTLY UNUSED

NOTE: LAST BYTE OF PROGRAM IS NOT USED. EXCEPT
LAST BYTE OF PRO 510 IS GLOBAL VOLUME (0 – 127)
LAST BYTE OF PROG 511 IS MIDI CHANNEL
LAST BYTE OF PROG 512 IS MASTER TUNE (0 – 127)

** STUDIO ELECTRONICS "ATC-1X" SYSEX INFO ** 2-18-08

THE ATC-1X CAN:

SEND A WHOLE BANK (128 PROGRAMS) – HOLD SAVE, HIT EXIT ( OR ON
REQUEST)

SEND ONE PROGRAM ON REQUEST

RECEIVE A WHOLE BANK

RECEIVE ONE PROGRAM AT THE CURRENT BANK & PROG #

SEND THE EDIT BUFFER ON REQUEST

RECEIVE THE EDIT BUFFER

THE ATC-1X HOLDS 4 BANKS OF 128 PROGRAMS. PROGRAM DATA IS 7 BIT, 64 BYTES,SO
NO COMPRESSION OR NYBBLIZING IS NEEDED. BANK SELECT IS STANDARD, I.E. CNTR #0,
DATA 0, CNTR #20h, DATA 0 THRU 3 FOR THE 4 BANKS, THEN A PROGRAM CHANGE
MESSAGE TO SELECT A NEW PROGRAM.

ATC-1 SYSEX HEADER:
BYTE 1 $F0
BYTE 2 00
BYTE 3 00
BYTE 4 77 STUDIO ELECTRONICS I.D.
BYTE 5 2 ATC-1 UNIT I.D.
BYTE 6 nn 127 = DUMP REQUEST, 0 WHEN SENDING PROGS TO ATC-1
BYTE 7 00 RESERVED
BYTE 8 00 RESERVED
BYTE 9 nn 0 = WHOLE BANK, 1 = 1 PROG AT CURRENT #, 2 = EDIT BUFFER
BYTE 10 nn MUST BE $F7 IF THIS IS A REQUEST, OTHERWISE THIS WILL BE
THE FIRST BYTE OF DATA

BYTE LAST MUST BE $F7

This is all the info I have, but Greg is pretty helpful, so I’m sure if you need any more info I can ask him.

If this all gets implemented then I’ll have no choice but to donate ” title=”Smile” />

thanks again

[sawan]

Hi atom, I just got hold of the sysex details from Greg at S.E.

They’re photocopied A4 sheets of typewriter paper. So I’m just about to transfer them to text so I can paste them here. That will then unlock the final missing links ” title=”Very Happy” />

[sawan]

By the way, can I add them myself by editing the XML, or do I have to dig into the code?

[sawan]

The new version is great. The Wave selectors on the oscs work excellently now. There was something wrong with them before where you would have to move another parameter or two before the wave selection changes did anything. Now it’s instant.

Only things missing now are the mix controls for each osc, mod assignments and extra lfo controls..

Thanks for everything so far!

[sawan]

were those values of any use?

[sawan]

turns out ‘mix’ is the osc vol

hehe

i guess all the ccs are covered then.

[sawan]

ah sorry, i’m a bit of a noob, what can i say

6 lfo waves, values 0-5 (triangle, square, sawtooth, reverse saw, noise, random) 0-6

4 filter types
0) minimoog
1) oberheim s.e.m.
2) 303
3) arp 2600

4 osc modes
0) normal
1) osc 2 synced to osc 1
2) no control voltage to osc 2 (pitch doesn’t track the keyboard)
3) no control voltage to osc 2 and it’s synced to osc 1

4 invert modes
0) off
1) vcf
2) en3 (envelope 3)
3) f-3 (env 1 & 3)

just about to get some more ccs for osc vol n stuff like that.

cheers

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