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Sorry for the late response, I haven’t been to this forum in a while. This currently works for my version of Ctrlr/Ableton, hence the reason I haven’t really been back on this forum.
I’m not sure, perhaps Ctrlr has been updated lately, which changed some of the parameters. I’ll attempt to use this on an updated Ctrlr Version to see if all the parameters work. My tetra is elsewhere atm though, so I can’t check it out now.
Edit: Don’t forget to make sure you’re Tetra is updated to 1.5..
This seems to be a common problem with Ctrlr
Have you Tetra Plugged in. Start up Ctrlr and click on the menu in Ctrlr up above. Click on the picture for "Devices". Select Midi output for Ctrlr.
Troubleshoot the forum instructions on using Ctrlr.
it looks like he has just about every parameter laid out in "Tetra VoiceManager", like the sequencer. And it’s organized nicely for a standalone player. "Tetra Ctrlr" does not have the sequencer part and is laid out differently. I didn’t spend the time to set up the sequencer, as I am unsure how much I would use it. Probably mostly for varying portamento and delay effects. But I’ll wait until Minimalist feels he has it set up.
if your Tetra is plugged in to your computer via USB when you start Ctrlr and load the panel it will work fine. Logic should work similar to Ableton in that respect. When I load my Ableton device, the Tetra will instantly work with the VST, as long as the Tetra is connected via USB. I’ve scarcely used Logic, let me know if the VST loads properly. I’m also curious if this works correctly with the latest build?
Hey, Atom, glad you like the colors.
Kidney, glad you figured it out. Do you use a specific DAW with your Tetra? This is most of what I need. If you see attached you can see how I set it up in Ableton, so everything is very simple to get to and automate. I’m using an older build of ctrlr, as this one seems to be stable for me. I did a minor update, adding a few parameters, but nothing special. I was hoping Minimalist would share his editor xml file, and I would take out everything except the sequencer and use that as a separate panel, as I am not going to go to the effort since I probably wouldn’t ever automate in Ableton.
I do wish they would update the Tetra’ Program Mode to save with Multimode On, but for now I use Combo Mode and save those patches….but they don’t have any midi message to increment/decrement the Combo. If they update that, I will definitely make an updated Ctrlr.
Yeah, how’d you get this figured out Atom?
I was using a workaround with the macro controls to enable automation. But the latest revision seems to have resolved the issue, and "back to arrangement" does not turn on when automating parameters. Very nice!
Looking at the image you have attached, doesn’t look like you have a Program Change. Do plan to include that?
The 8 Program Check buttons were there because CTRLR, at the time, did not have a program change function with custom messages like C0 00, C0 01. Now it does, and I’ve uploaded a Panel which enables this. These all use either the custom Sysex messages or NRPN midi messages, no CC messages. The LFO’s I have not messed with yet, I believe Minimalist will have a Panel more of what you like and have LFO. I use this to map to Ableton and control the effects there.
Woh, you took this to the next level. Nicely done!
Do you have it set up so that 4 of these could be open corresponding to each Midi channel Voice in multimode. Basically set up each panel’s output for Midi 1, Midi 2, Midi 3, Midi 4. Perhaps tabs on top. Also, do you notice the Tetra has a bug with Voice Volume being automated in realtime? It changes on the Tetra, but doesn’t actually change the volume.
Great, the UiCombo set as Program Change works great! so now I can load up an Ableton Set, and just automate it to switch once, and the programs for each voice are selected and ready to go!
Nice, I’ll get around to using this week.
Has this been implemented at all, so you can have unique Midi messages corresponding for each UiCombo name?
I found a workaround after messing around. I had to map the parameters in Ableton Live like attached. Everything is great, except once in a while the VST will crash ableton.
Also, I saw someone post a bug (id 3286846), which isn’t true for me for Build 375. Just set Ableton to configure, then turn the knob up and down on the VST and it should pop up.
I’m astonished this works so nicely, thanks Atom!
just rename the file extension so it’s .panels. it’s some automatic naming that happens.
I’m still getting the "Back to Arrangement" issue. Attached is an image of what I’m describing. And here is a link that I think kinda describes the situation going on http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? … 49&start=0
I’ve followed the directions from the link by turning off all outputs on the Midi options, even disconnected the Tetra. And it still happens with the Ctrlr VST. That suggests something is happening between Ableton Live and Ctrlr that is causing Midi feedback. If anyone has any effective way to prevent this, that would mean the world and would be brilliant. Sometimes I can get it going all the way through without the "Back to Arrangement" turning on, but that is not often.
Attached is the last panel I did, which seems to work pretty well in Program Mode with Multimode off. Once the UiButton gets fixed I’ll be switching those UiToggleButtons, which don’t accurately portray which mode it is in. You’ll see in this panel when you click on the eight Toggle Buttons on the left, that it switched the program.
I’ve figured out how to control the Ctrlr Sliders via Ableton Live Parameters that can be automated with the IAC driver input and output on, which is fantastic (awesome), and that means the Tetra could possibly be useful, and I might not return it. Now that I can change those, I need to see if I can then output those changes via NPRN with the Midi Out when I get home. So frequencies, voices, etc. could then be automated with just a New Lane in Ableton on the track! If this then could be used to automate the programs and tracks, then this Tetra has lots of potential thx to Ctrlr.
Unfortunately, the Multimode and Combo mode has all sorts of issues and bugs. The dream would be to have those automated in a stable way through Ableton, and then you basically have something Analog that you could use live, that is way lighter than analog keyboards.
Kidney, I’ve attached it zipped. Otherwise, to get the OS file for the Tetra, you need to be a member of the DSI forum and then download it from the Forum Post about Version 1.4. After unzipping, you’ll need to use the actual Tetra LE editor, connect the Tetra via USB, and update selecting the Tetra OS Update under the the Tetra LE menu options at the top left. You’ll see the Tetra display the update happening. All it really does is stabilize the 1.3 version. Which is still quite buggy in Combo mode. There are still alot of issues DSI should have fixed by now.
Minimalist I too have seen this issue too. But I assumed it was the "Multimode" and "Combo mode" of the Tetra that was buggy with OS 1.4. That would be great if all of the parameters could be setup for each voice on ctrlr. The Program of the Tetra with Multimode off works nicely.
Kidney, make sure you are in program mode on the Tetra, for the Ctrlr GUI Devices image tab, please set up for DSI Tetra for in and out. And also on your panel select the DSI Tetra for In and Out. I would just send you my panel, but first you would have to get this working, since the Panels don’t default to that setup (hopefully in time they can be exported to do just that.) You should receive message via the MIDI monitoring when you switch values. If that doesn’t work try exiting and starting the program again.
I’m not getting multiple custom message to be sent. To fully explain
Lets say I set up a UiCombo with two options in "Combo Contents" which are:
Program 1
Program 2Now I go to the MIDI parameters.
I do MIDI message type SysEx.
I enter in the Sys Ex formula "C0 xx"Out of Edit Mode, switching the UiCombo only sends "C0 00" for each options, which does not change the program. What needs to be sent is C0 00 when Program 1 is selected and C0 01 when Program 2 is selected.
Thanks for the help
