[evilprime]

Hey,

No it was too complicated for me 😉 i’ve managed to make a ctrlr panel and simulate all the buttons correctly though which saved me a lot of time to program it but i never figured out how to do a full program dump from/to synth 🙁 I gave up pretty quickly though.. since the panel worked ‘ok’

I’m not even sure if its possible on these machines. I got a em22 aswell and the editor that’s available for that one seems to support programs dumps.

Maybe its good to compare manuals or something.

[evilprime]

Hey,

it doesn’t sound very ‘simple’ at this point for me 🙂 I do understand what you’re saying though. Is there a ctrlr panel which uses this approach so i can study that and maybe copy the technique?

I know this approach is the best way. The bit01 editor works great. The good part is that you can load the presets and the modulator values are visible for that specific preset. My panel now clearly doesn’t have that option which makes it harder to know what your doing.

L

[evilprime]

Well, you were right. For parameter changes i guess it need a full program write, which is lots more work to set up. I cant even think of where to start 🙂

I got an editor for my Crumar BIT01 which also needs full program dumps, and this tool does excactly(like most editors for old synths i guess) that what i need for my Elka.

I guess i need to test it with 1 program sysex dump, study the output and somehow program the panel to ‘load’ presets and automatically set all the slider values in the panel… Do my editing and do a manually write dump or automatically write dump to the synth.

Maybe i should study some other panels.

thanks.

L

[evilprime]

Hey,

Thanks for your efforts.

I’m a bit confused now. In the manual its says that indeed the first 4 bits of the 3rd byte should be set on 16 but the last 4 bits should be ‘channel’ wouldn’t that be 00010000 ?

Anyhow when i try to set your sysex value on a slider which is set for ’12 – key velocity?’ its not responding.

When i set the 3rd byte on 00010000 and manually select the key velocity parameter on the synth its working. This is how i made my initial panel. I’ve created ‘ key panel simulation ‘ buttons for the parameters. So there is a button for lets say ‘ 12 – Key velocity’  with multi sysex :

f0 2f 00 09 31 f7 (select key 1 on panel simulation)

f0 2f 00 09 32 f7 (select key 2 on panel simulation )

f0 2f 00 09 0d f7 (enter)

Then i made a slider for the value with sysex:

f0 2f 16 09 xx f7

This is great but in this way i need to make buttons for all the parameters with many sliders, it would be great if i could use 1 slider for 1 parameter in total.

[evilprime]

Yeah i understand the format. Looking at the midi monitor and the manual i must conclude that the output is correct, but its not working. The synth has an ‘edit’ and ‘function’ mode but whichever i use its not responding on the control change message. I checked all midi settings on the synth and they are correct. It does accepts program change message, when i select the bank first.

You know of any reason why the control change message would not work in my case? anything i’m overseeing?

[evilprime]

cpt.cred wrote:

Where is this “how-to video”?

do a search for ‘ where to start’ in the forum.

[evilprime]

Hey,

I’m well underway in creating a nice panel with mostly sysex and multi sysex strings. I’m doing sysex because i got some trouble with CC.

In the manual it says:

1011nnnn  Control change/channel

0ccccccc    Control number

0vvvvvvv   Control Value

c = 1            Modulation (v=0….127)

Now when i create a slider set the midi on CC, i’m a bit confused what to put at ‘control number’ I guess its the ‘data byte nr’ ? ( zie attached manual from earlier post)

When i want to edit data byte nr 55 (pith attack rate) the output in midi-monitor is:

[18:21:55:000858]: RAW:[b0 37 6b]
[18:21:56:000562]: RAW:[b0 37 6c]
[18:21:56:000675]: RAW:[b0 37 6d]

but nothing is changed 🙁

Wierd thing is when i make a Program change knob the mini monitor output is:

[18:24:21:000405]: RAW:[c0 03]

and this works… any idea what i’m doing wrong with the CC ?

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[evilprime]

Hey,

For your information, i’ve installed it on my laptop, plugged in the roland um-one, set the midi settings using the midi menu, added a slider and set the proper sysex string and now it works!

thanks for your help, i can now move on in making a nice Elka ER33 panel, i hope.

[evilprime]

I’m sorry. I’ve made a mistake in the beginning and i’ve wrote that down in my notes and i’m now accidently reusing that string.. my bad. I was using the correct sysex string with the older version though.

I’ve reinstalled everything and now with the correct sysex string it still not giving the right values for xx in the midi monitor.

see attachement.

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Also, i’ve tried the standalone version and the full vst version install, but with both i got no midi-out activity.

L

[evilprime]

Hey,

I’ve uninstalled the version i had and rebooted the machine. After that i installed 1205, standalone.

With the other version the midi out would work, but the value didn’t change. With this version midi-out is not working, see attachement. I’ve again followed the instruction from the video. Any idea what could be wrong? I dont have any other midi problems whatsoever. My midisport and roland um-one are working correctly. In theory i could use any midi-out port just to see data in the midi monitor. I’ve tried other midi-out ports but nothing shows up in the midi monitor, the ports are not being used by other programs at the moment.

L

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[evilprime]

Hey,

Thanks for your reply.

I think its good to mention that my midi-in on my synthesizer does work. I’ve worked with it using Cubase without any problems. I can use mimdi-ox to examine the midi data without problems also.

The problem is only that when i create a new panel with CTRLR with a new slider with the sysex string, CTRLR doesn’t change the value for xx, it stays on 00. Atleast that is what the midi monitor in CTRLR shows me. When i turn the slider all the way to its maximum the xx value still stays 00. Like it doesn’t interpret the xx value corerctly.

You mentioned the latest nightly build i’m not sure i’m on that build i will give it a try tomorrow.

thanks again.

BTW whas the midi calculator removed ?

[evilprime]

atom wrote:

show us what you got so far, we’ll help you figure this out.

Ok thanks. Let me explain first. I’m trying to create a panel for me ELKA ER-33 using the manual. I’ve looked at the instruction video and that’s basically all i got for now, a new panel with one slider and the hex string i constructed using the manual.

I’ve tried to view the midi output from my ELKA so i could figure out the string for various parameters but somehow its not working, the manual specifically states that a 3 pin midi cable should be used maybe that’s the reason, i dont know.

For now the manual is all i got and i’m not sure that my string is correct. I am attaching the manual just in case anyone would want to look at it for helping out.

I’ve tried the first parameter 1. Looking at the format this is what i got so far:

sysex format:

11110000 1000111 00000001 00001001 00000001 11110111

1: relative frequency(hex): 70 47 01 09 01 xx F7

I have put the hex result in the slider properties as the video showed me but the xx value isn’t changing.

Thanks for helping, i appreciate it.

Lennart

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