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Sorry to disappoint anyone who is still expecting this, but I haven’t made any significant progress due to work and personal projects. I’ll post an update here if that changes any time soon.
OK, so with Jucer, I am creating a library of parts (components) but not creating the overall layout of the interface?
If that’s possible in Jucer, I can’t figure out how to do it. I can only create a single component at a time.
I’ll definitely use an organized naming system when I put the components together. But let me know if there’s a way to create the overall interface in Jucer instead of doing one knob at a time. I tried to read through their documentation but still need some help to get started.
Also, send me a PM with your email – I don’t have it yet but you should have a PM with my email.
It’s really simple for you because you use it all the time!
I downloaded JUCER and I can create a component. How do I start to compile various components into the overall GUI?
Before I even get into that, I really need to do some mockups in Illustrator. I’ll post whatever I do here, so that other Andromeda owners can give their feedback.
I think that was me. Not sure if I can subscribe to threads on this forum, but I just thought I’d check back – just in time, apparently.
I can get started on UI stuff, but I’ve never used JUCE before. How to begin?
Atom, I’ll send you another PM with my email.
Yes, everything except a few esoteric things are covered by NRPN. See page 258 in the PDF manual for a couple of exceptions. I don’t think these exceptions are related to actual sound manipulation.
Thanks, between this and some further research I understand the technical aspect of NRPN messages a bit better. I looked around and it seems like virtually every DAW [i:2jxd1132]except[/i:2jxd1132] Ableton Live can handle NRPN data. So I guess that’s the way to go. Too bad I just started using Live! Maybe in the next version they will finally meet the MIDI specs of the 1980s…
[quote:2udl2f89]1) what is the Child ID, Parent ID stuff
2) what’s the Parent Page[/quote:2udl2f89]I can only guess, but I’d suspect that within their implementation, turning a knob sends an audio-affecting command and also sends a message to the CPU that tells it to draw the GUI for a set of parameters related to the knob that was changed. For example, if you turn the filter cutoff knob, the GUI always redraws to show you that value and a lot of related values.
You can also press the "View" button for some clusters of related elements, which will show the same screen. This lets you peek at a value without turning a knob (and altering a value). For example, each LFO has its own screen, each filter and oscillator have their own screen. The GUI shows a lot of options that aren’t accessible via the front panel).
If you look at page 34 in the A6 manual…
[url:2udl2f89]http://www.alesis.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/0/a816dee61d9ad11686c04cf912d15fcd/file/a6_manual.pdf[/url:2udl2f89]…you’ll see a photo of what the A6 GUI looks like. It’s a tab interface paradigm like you see on many websites. I’d assume that the Parent is the top row (groups of related parameters), and the Child is the bottom row (the actual param values).
[quote:2udl2f89]3) beginning at page 18 are the parameters, some of them look like controls for some gui/view stuff in the andromeda menu, like the seq graph_tab switch and others, is there ANY need to add them to a midi editor (i think not, but please correct me if i’m wrong)[/quote:2udl2f89]
I don’t think so. The tabbed GUI is one of the worst aspects of the A6 and one of the main reasons why a VST interface is so desperately need. The A6 team probably did the best they could, considering that they had to find a way to represent thousands of parameters, but it actually makes the complexity of the synth more impenetrable than it already is.
[quote:2udl2f89]also it looks like the A6 reacts to both NRPN and sysex, i was wondering if there is a preference witch type to use.[/quote:2udl2f89]
Not sure how the interface between the hardware and software works. I know that some DAWs (such as Ableton Live) don’t work very well with NRPNs (if at all). And I don’t think most of the knobs on the A6 will output CCs. I actually just tried this in Live; it will record the basics like pitch wheel, mod wheel, volume control, but not things like oscillator volume and filter cutoff.
Hope this helps.
I just signed up for the forum to add my support for an Andromeda CTRLR. After finding CTRLR I regret selling my Matrix 1000 and TX81Z. They were hard to program so I just let them go. I think programs like this can really open up the "black box" that many synthesizers can be (quite literally!).
I’ve had an Andromeda since 2005 and it’s great, but also extremely difficult to conceptualize and program. If I could just SEE all of the parameters at once it would be a big help. I almost wish the Andromeda wasn’t so complex, so it wouldn’t need that horrible little screen with the jittery soft knobs to access the more complex modulation options. I could just accept it as a simple but powerful piece of hardware. Instead, I always end up digging into the deeper settings with those tiny little buttons, which is an exercise in frustation.
I’d be willing to spend a significant amount of time designing the GUI (both aesthetically and conceptually) in order to make this project a reality. I’ve been doing graphic and web interface design for about 10 years. And obviously, I have an A6 so I can help out with any testing that might be needed.
As someone else already mentioned, Vyzor has been claiming to have an A6 programmer in development for years. I don’t think it’s going to happen.
atom, look for a PM with a link to my portfolio and some other info.
