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wow – I’ve been waiting years for a proper E-6400 controller..there was a pretty good PC-based one years ago that used SCSIMIDI but I dunno what happened to that..My Ultra is sitting folorn on a desk in my studio…time to dust it off..Might be a while before I get it all wired in but again – wow

Thanks!

jake

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I’ll tell you what though..The MKS-70 is a bitch of a synth to work with..I have quite an old OS (1.03) which I need to upgrade..I think it fixes some MIDI/sysex stuff..Even getting it to play the selected patch in Midiquest is a krypton factor job

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You want me to grab the output when I hit the change tone button? (if there is one – I’m not sure what it sends when I do that) I have MidiQuest too..I could see if that has the string..I know you can change tones with it, I wonder if it sends a command to edit the selected tone – thinking about it, it must..

I’ll be back 🙂

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wow, that’d be amazing..if it could be based around the PG panel it’d be even better..I’d lend you my MKS if you lived nearby..I’d be happy to test all of the functions and report back if/when you get round to doing a panel for it..do you have the full sysex imp pages? I can scan and send if not

Thanks again

jake

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nice one..take your time..it’s the holidays 🙂

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Only just found this post..I get feedback with my XT too..I don’t have any MIDI thru connected anywhere nor do I have it set in ctrlr..I never use MID thru..

I’m not sure what causes it to happen..It seems to happen while I’m not even editing the XT..I might be using ctrlr to edit my MKS for instance, I’ll go to change patches on the XT and it will have locked.

I connect all of my synths MIDI in and out as I like to write sysyex in Logice and I also use MidiQuest..

I only set MIDI in and out (and tick MIDI to comparator – don’t know what that is!) Never use MIDI thru in either Logic or ctrlr

Didin’t realise it might have been ctrlr doing it..thought I had a bum XT.

The MKS does it after I have changed to a split patch with the PCProgrammer..I play the bottom half of the split and bang. Locked..Can play the top half fine

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No worries, Lorenzo..let me know if it works; I’m interested..I’d like to make a panel for the Eventide DSP4000 but I know nothing about LUA 🙂 sysex I’m ok with I’m busy looking at the workings of the panels I have to see how they do their stuff..

Good luck!

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hey Lorenzo,

try hooking it up to ctrlr with the SE-1 panel open..add the in and out dev ice drop-down menus to the top of the panel just to make sure you are transmitting and recieving to the SE-1x, and look in a MIDI monitor window when you twiddle the filter cutoff knob (send sysex must be turned on in the MID menu of the SE-1x) You should see a standard sysyex string..report back and paste it in here..The first string will do..it’ll look something like this:

f0 10 06 05 f7

but with different numbers..If you look inside the actual sysex message of the correspo0nding filter cutoff controller knob on the ctrlr panel (by going into editmode and looking on the right-hand side, or by opening the matrix window and looking for the control in the list), it will be very similar. I think only one byte will be different in the message sent by the SE-1x and the message sent by the knob on the panel. That byte will be the device ID byte i.e SE-1x as oppsed to SE-1 (the byte you see in the ctrlr panel)

You don’t need the sysex chart of you can identify whihc bytes are different from the device and the panel

good luck!

jake

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Joy!! yes it works..Nice one 🙂 thanks again

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😀 top stuff..I’ll download it now and test..thanks!

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have you got a manual for it? (the SE-1) with full sysex implementation? If so, it’s pretty easy (but a bit time consuming)

Open MIDI monitor
choose a knob/slider on ctrl panel
turn it/slide it
Note the sysex string
I suspect it is the bytes e and h that will need adjusting.
Check the manual for what byte e should be. Byte e is the unit ID and the unit ID for the SE-1 and SE-1x are different. This byte will be the same in every sysex command sent to the SE-1. Go through each skider/knob and change byte e to the correct value as per the SE-1 sysex imp. chart by the method in 8 below.
Repeat for byte h, but byte h is the controller number and it will be different for every controller, so on an MKS-70, VCF cutoff is controller number 34 and the MKS format type is 24, so my sysex command to VCF cuttoff will look like this: [f0 41 36 00 24 20 01 34 39 f7] where 39 f7 is the actual value(s)
Enter edit mode on the panel and click each knob/slider and change the SysEx Formula string on the right-hand side, changing only those bytes that need changing. It took me about twenty mionutes to do the JXProgrammer so it talks to my MKS-70 and I had to change two bytes per controller. The SE-1 doesn’t have that many more controllers than an MKS, so it shouldn’t be too bad

It’s a bit daunting at first coz sysex is hex and/or binary so you might need to convert the values from the manual before inputting them into the editor

 

Hope this helps!

 

jake

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LOL, sorry that doesn’t scan well…I meant I like the new site, not when you can get the new site up and running!

Thakns for the info. I’ve sussed it. It is odd, as I reckon the PG-800 must know what it is plugged into or there are JX8P specific versions whcih I doubt. Anyway, all I need to do it change two bytes per controller or knoba dn it works a treat!

Thanks again, Atom

 

jake

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Hey, speedy response 🙂 thanks

Well, the MKS-70 is two JX-10’s in a rack, a JX-10 is two JX8’s and the PG-800 controller can control all of them. The JX8Programmer.bpanelz I downloaded certainly looks like my PG-800 in every way, so I reckon if it can control a JX8 it can also control an MKS-70..Having said that I have no clue really 🙂

There seem to be three JX8 controllers in the database, so when you have time to get it back up and running (like the new site) I’ll download the other ones.

The MKS doesn’t have a device ID as such, it has a control channel, which is set to 1. the sysex seems to be mostly the same as the manual states so, sending aVCF cutoff sends:

f0 41 36 00 21 20 01 22 3b f7

where 41 correctly corresponds to the byte a as per the manual (Roland ID#) but the format type (byte e) is 21 where it should be 24 (JX-10), and the parameter value is 22 where it should be 34.

I guess this is the problem, but odd as in the RW the PG can control all of those synths.

Would there be a way to change the a byte across all sliders assuming I can get one to work?

Great app, thanks 🙂

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