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OK, did some investigating. To set up, I just took a new blank panel, and set the appropriate in/out MIDI devices. Then I added a slider, set its MIDI message type to Multi, set the MIDI controller number to 0 (the appropriate one for the data element I’m testing with), then clicked the blue icon with the "+" on it and chose NRPN. When I lock that, I can turn the on-screen knob and see the value change on the device in question (a Mutable Instruments Shruthi, with MIDI mode set to "Ctrl" – trust me, that’s the right mode to be in). Here are the MIDI values I see sent out, via the MIDI monitor in Ctrlr:
[MidiOut][7:52:19:224.000]: [MIDI OUT][Shruthi] [b0 63 00]
[MidiOut][7:52:19:224.000]: [MIDI OUT][Shruthi] [b0 62 00]
[MidiOut][7:52:19:224.000]: [MIDI OUT][Shruthi] [b0 06 00]
[MidiOut][7:52:19:224.000]: [MIDI OUT][Shruthi] [b0 26 01]Now however, if I twist a knob on the device itself, I don’t see the on-screen knob adjust, and this is what I see in the MIDI monitor:
[MidiIn][7:52:01:554.000]: [MIDI IN][Shruthi][b0 26 02]
So it seems that the Shruthi is only sending a partial NRPN message or something? Sort of like MIDI running status or something? Just guessing.
Thanks for any help!
OK, will work on getting you a nice stripped down example with all the data. More soon – thanks!
Hi atom – have you had a chance to address this yet? I tried again with the most recent build, and it’s still not working here… Thanks again.
Thanks, I’m familiar with those Knobman threads on KVR – I read them all the way through a year or two ago, haven’t kept up though…
Beautiful! You guys collectively have some nice Knobman skillz…
I’ll probably not dive into learning Lua until I have a use case within Ctrlr; nothing like trying to solve a specific problem to help motivate the learning! Thanks regardless.
Helpful, thanks!
Helpful, thanks!
I think atom means this: http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/juce … b8079e27dd
Thanks, appreciate the responses guys!
Thanks, appreciate the responses guys!
Thanks, this was affecting me too. Easy enough to repair though with a text editor.
Beautiful, thank you again!!
Thanks guys. However I want both to send the -XX to +XX values, but I *also* want the graphical representation as in the little movie above. As I mentioned early on in the thread, I have no problem getting the correct values sent over MIDI and displayed in Ctrlr, but I cannot seem to get the graphical stuff right (when just using the built in sliders). I know I can use Knobman to create the custom graphics with an image slider, but the rest of my panel just has built in components so was looking to use those…
Using the directions you each gave above, the graphical representation is still not like in the movie.
Is it rounded or just truncated? For example would 5.9 become 6, or 5?
Thanks for the further feedback. I’m aware of the fixed sliders, and have them working well, but they still don’t meet the need of what I’m trying to accomplish. I’ve since found what I think is the "official" name of what I’m looking for – a bipolar knob. Here’s a movie of what I’m after (sorry about the resolution, not sure what happened):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teaWGEJQ6v4
Is there a way to do this with non-custom graphics components within ctrlr?
Try quitting and restarting ctrlr. That usually causes the image to be visible in the drop down menu.
I like the last solution the best – leave "Name" as unique, and add "Visible Name" as non-unique. Thanks!
Great, thanks – but I’m not sure if this does what I want it to do for the UI of the dial. My dial is sending NRPN values, from -24 to 24. Works fine (I think, haven’t tested it with my hardware yet), with range set to min of -24, max to 24. But I want the UI to show no "rotary fill" color when the dial is vertical (at a value of 0), but to show the fill color as the dial is moving right or left. Does the approach you mention above allow me to do that?
Sure. But this is also why I think this new version of ctrlr will be a blockbuster; it *simplifies* doing all this stuff, just as Knobman did for the graphical knob/slider UI world.
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