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sorry for delay, here are some presets while you wait

zip>
https://app.box.com/s/0vo6me30ioysoz6v8gelwfgw6mzdacrx

if you have a Novation Remote, here is a single *.blk
file that uploads all templates to required positions.
instructions in zip:

https://app.box.com/s/yo46rr2q3e67tnxhtkel3c3480uj7hot

[human fly]

don’t forget the vz8m and vz10m. a bit different.
i think it’s the same deal, sending it in chunks.
isn’t it split or something? there was some discussion
on usergroup about it-few years back.

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thanks, i’d never heard of the mks series keyboard.
(3 midi outs, and a split on the keyboard)

the Remote doesn’t allow 2 variables per control, or linked
controls..

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really think it’s worth having the multipart editing.

this is just a programming problem until i find out
how to manage VST Index# and the override on max # of
parameters (which is a weird aspect of Ctrlr, and i wish
some Lua’s were included ready-to-use,in a library. have
to get back on this soon, been a bit busy.)

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here are Novation Remote MIDI templates for D-110,
17 in all, for Tone/Part parameters/rhythm setup.
best way to load them for now is to send them from
midi0x, in order, to the memory the numbers indicated.
(forgot to put info.txt in there – to do)

i took time out to finish this when i hit a block
with Ctrlr – and in any case it was primarily about
progging up the Remote and seeing if it can fulfill
its potential.(same for D-110)

nb: this is a first working version. maybe layout
needs to change a bit, will check it out in use.
i’ve used drumpads as navigation buttons between
template series(2 or 3-page), and then you step
‘down’,no more than 3 pages, in each section. it
works, you can get around a lot quicker. i’m just
checking out the process, with this set, but if
you have access to a D-110 and a Remote, it is
worth giving it a try. takes a couple of minutes
to load them, set basic chan=1, unit#=17 on D-110,
and it should all work.

Remote D-110 MIDI templates
https://app.box.com/s/nidzifplr7bznlpq1u3zztxdlr4us0ly

basically it is intended for editing Part1, set to
MIDIch1, and that’s where you edit tones(and have to
assign these to ‘timbre’ numbers, and then assign
timbres to Parts.

but the thing about the D-110 is that you can
probably edit and save tones and timbres on
any part, and they all appear to have individual
temporary buffers. something like an e-mu might
only have an edit buffer for the part displayed
on the lcd, ie: you can’t edit multitimbrally.
even some more recent machines don’t have that.

so you can have unsaved edits going on on all parts
if you want. which may be one reason roland made
the ‘enter’ button send out a single sysex message
for the displayed parameter + value. so you could
run your sequence, stop and go to the part you want
to edit, find the parameter, eg…cutoff, partial1 (…)
and change it from..?35 to 40, say. then arm seq’r to
record, hit play and hit enter on D-110.

stop, go back, put back the value, and then run sequencer:
event inserted. no avalanche of sysex clogging up the
MIDI bus, just 11 bytes, and you can offset its position
if needed.

so that’s not a bad way of using sysex.
(even getting used to the D-110 panel operation,
but it is still a bit ‘stressful’)

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if you have a novation remote:
there are some new *.syx files to try out.

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piping up 😉 !
i’ve got this panel to the stage whr i want Lua skills (that
i don’t have)

Roland D-110 panel

i was thinking about being able to retrieve presets and banks
via dump request, but yes, how is a bulk dump structured? and
how do you get values to go to the correct addrss?

from what i read elsewhere, if you have too many bytes in the value
position, they will cascade to the next consecutive address – is that
how patch dumps work? so you would input one header, and the 1st
address in a series of parameters, and it fills in the value ‘slot’,
going down the list? this is what occured to me, anyway. no doubt not
that simple, even if it is the way, because you get dummy addresses
etc.
(if you can assist in any way on my project, most appreciated !)

[human fly]

ah well i’m new to Ctrlr too.

it needs preset/bank import, a librarian section for loading
presets into editor and thence to device, and, well, ‘Learn’
should be handled by most DAWs, but if Ctrlr plugins can do
that, yes, of course. a Ctrlr panel would be a more
convenient way of tackling the D-110 than a Remote MIDI template.

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here’s where i got to with the Remote version.
working (with some corrections needed) for tone edit.
am redoing Patch+Rhythm set.
there are 11 templates, to load to memories 1-11 in
the Remote.

https://app.box.com/s/cr3qgoy05795dip4poc8eaa4uganc3m9
Remote D-110 Tone Edit beta1.zip

good for getting round if you have a Novation Remote –
not perfect yet but you’ll like your D-110 more 😉

bump, for help needed getting the panel working again.
need Lua, and fixing the VSTIndexes (needs several
hundred parameters)

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bump…
ok, so i’ve realised this has to be finished, as it is quite cool
using a D110 with Orion, like a plugin with 8 parts+drum. so a VST
editor like this becomes very useful/essential ( and it’s all very
minimal, no extra boxes etc)

(still working on Remote version > which has helped a lot getting
the sysex right)

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update: i’ve put this on hold, as i reached a limit to
my abilities with Ctrlr, and went back to work on the
Novation Remote mapping for D-110(with fresh ideas etc.)
(almost finished)

so if anyone is interested in helping to sort out some
issues with this Ctrlr panel, i’d like to hear about it,
especially if dasfaker has time to have a look,
as seems to have mastered building a librarian, patch
retrieval, etc.

i’ve done all the sysex. just have to check a few things
with multimode. tone edit all works.

maybe i’ve screwed up the file, deeply, and it has to be
rebuilt 🙁
> i’ve ‘lost’ VSTIndex+default values, and need the Lua
override for more than 64params. i will figure this out
when i get time.

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here’s the plugin zip (hope it uploads)

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>i’ve got to a good stage: layout is done, maybe some minor changes,
but it’s all there. i need some finer points of Lua for naming patches,
and i wouldn’t know how to retrieve patch data, that’s all a bit beyond
my skills, and i have no plan to learn any of that at this point.

>this is a Panel for Roland D-110(will probably also work for D10/20 and
maybe D5) -it’s a neglected machine capable of some good sounds, this
should make it moreprogrammable and usable.

>i’m going to see it i can get some assistance/collaboration for this,
it isn’t like it’s a commercial project or anything.
>so i’m just going to put that request out,while i fine up what i’ve got,
get VST Index in order, and start entering the sysex.

>i have one doubt: these Roland multi-timbral machines can effectively
use any channel for editing; i’m planning on MIDI ch1 at present. so i’m
thinking someone may have away of making MIDI channel a variable, so that
it could be specified. not sure how useful this is. i would generally use
one ‘Part’, ie: part1 for the Tone editing, and Timbre assign, save those,
and assign Timbres to Parts in the Patch, where you set levels, pan, keyrange,
offset tuning etc. (it’s a huge headache on the front panel, and almost
impossible to get the most out of the machine)

>if you look at the MIDI data list/sysex in the D-110 manual, you can see
this. you have unit# and basic channel etc.

http://cdn.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/D-110_OM.pdf

>here’s a png of the main view at the moment. i haven’t used any external
images except for the structure select png borrowed from d50 panel and
edited a bit. colours aren’t final, emphasis is on function+ease of access.
comments welcome.
>it may be fairly trivial to get this up to top standard. i lack the
programming skills for Lua and the finer points, so it would be good
to get some assistance to get this at least to a working v1.

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