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just vertical sliders for each harmonic parameter. one page would be for the attack, another page would be for the release, etc. the advantage is the speed and ease one could modify exactly the parameter you wanted. it’s not perfect but…
and the filter on the k5000 seems like a series of sliders that attenuate the levels of each harmonic, and when put into motion, the ‘curve’ just moves to the left or right, this is my theory at least. resonance i presume would i assume boost the overall volume ceiling of all the harmonics (bands)
at any rate, it will be way better to be able to draw the harmonics as well as filter bands with the mouse.
so the first challenge would be to make one vertical slider that only works when the mouse pointer is over its rectangle WHILE left click, and stops working when the mouse is no longer over it. (also, only sending data when there is a parameter change, not at polling rate!)
Awesome! Thanks for picking up the Macro controller. it just works!
maybe it would be cool if there were more controls on the macro controller like ADSR for a group amplitude sort of thing that relatively adjusts all the params or something. Anyway, plenty of room for inspiration here.
Sound diver tried didnt they? Yeah it is going to take almost a reinvention of the synth to come up with macros that can intelligently handle a few params at the same time or in tandem, etc.
i see additive synths as a sort of waterfall or simple wavetable, maybe that thought could lead to something one of these days.
I am interested in an editor for my K5000r too. I am busy with lots of other things (mainly my job) but if I get the time I will be willing to contribute.
btw. your question about CC vs Sysex: as far as I know it is always better to use CC if the synth supports it. As Sysex is not designed for realtime parameter value changes synths are reacting smoother to CC’s.
that sounds good! I should create some sort of a mockup, i think the K5Kr deserves a reasonable GUI. I have some ideas, for example using parabolic curves to control more than one harmonic (or their envelope points) , stuff to take some of the tedium out of it for the end user. and an EQ-like additive filter editor. all about using today’s intelligent scripting gymnastics and ease-of-GUI ergonomics to the max in order to serve up the meat and potatoes that the K5K wants.
one should be able to draw the harmonics across the board with a mouse gesture for example, and switch to each of the A,S,D and R to be able to do the same thing, respectively. same for the filter, need to see each harmonic really big and fat and have a fast interface response to said mouse drawing.
If done right, then we just might be able to create loads of awesome new presets for 2016.
Looks good so far… I’m interested (I’ve just hunted down my very own K5KR) but probably won’t have enough time until the summer holidays.
FYI I’m not a total Ctrlr novice – I previously made a functioning AN1X panel, but got frustrated when it wouldn’t work in Logic 9 properly (nothing else does apparently, worked fine stand alone…) – something to do with Juice library and AU I recall. So I might be able to help. I really must get around to learning Lua someday soon…I am an eternal CTRLR novice, just too many things on my plate. I made this one using plain old MIDI cc I think 😉
The dream is to make an actual Additive synthesis editor that DOESN’T SUCK, and that’s going to require fancy scripting within CTRLR to do math in order to make a usable GUI. The Sounddiver GUI is ok, but forget trying to edit harmonics, there is a tiny little knob to select something like 64 harmonics, each of which has an ADSR, the K5K is next to impossible to edit with or without Sounddiver, so it is screaming for an interface. Not to mention a semi intelligent librarian that can make sense of the limited memory slots, plus allow for some sort of auditioning. The K5000 is Kawai’s greatest synthesizer and I hope one day humanity can start figuring out how to control this bad mother.
are there CC numbers for the parameters?
i guess not all synths have CC. but that’s the easiest way to get things going right?
i guess that needs some advance scripting to show in the envelope section?
this panel is such a cool thing, thank you again for sharing it!
i recall there being ‘looping’ envelopes somewhere in the 77, have you implemented that or do you at least recall which parameter does that?
and another bug, if i have a finished panel open in a tab and an empty panel open in a tab, and if i close the empty panel tab, the finished panel disappears.
Have you tried placing the image and slider on different layers?
i don’t know but i discovered another bug though, removing a layer has no undo! i accidentally removed the wrong layer, the one with all the stuff on it.
Yamaha:
FB01
Tx81z
TG-77
FS1RRoland:
D50
Tr505Kawai:
K5000r
K4Casio:
VZ1I have started a panel for the SY77 / TG77 , so far it does nothing but it’s the first concrete step towards getting a panel made.
also, the 77 will probably take many years to make a panel for, it is very, very complicated.
wow, I have no idea what any of this means. how in the hell do you learn this stuff? I mean WHERE on Google can you learn this?
it’s like first there was an amoeba and then suddenly there is a turtle with no tadpole in between. I see the turtle, but I do not see where all these hexadecimal formulas evolved from.
the most recent version of the panel is uploaded in the original post (i dont know how to erase the others)
I’m using midi cc to control this, is there any benefit to using the SYSEX formula?
if anyone has this panel, please upload it even if it is still unfinished.
i have absolutely no idea what is going on, but i will try to make a panel for a TG-77 and a starting point would be useful. so upload your expermental stuff i want to learn. upload anything please, im clueless.
