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Funny how I came looking for Blofeld editor today and this topic had just been replied after all these years 😛
Sadly I have lost this Evolver template I made back then. I ran in to some problems then, got frustrated and gave up on it.. don’t remember what exactly.
But if someone still has it, feel free to upload and use it how ever you like.
"loderbast":553jajch wrote:nice! that is great.[/quote:553jajch]
Sorry for the delay, but I won’t make updated template until this:
[url:553jajch]http://ctrlr.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=784[/url:553jajch]
is solved.More trouble than help with editor currently.
hmm. I can also reproduce this bug with normal midi-CC knob, quickly scrolling on negative side with controller (Maschine in midi controller mode in this case) will often leave CTRLR knob jumping from zero to negative, like it is trying to go on negative side, but does not.
Expressions should be fine with "modulatorValue+50" & "midiValue-50" ?
"loderbast":1545w07i wrote:is it possible, that this won`t work right with the latest version of ctrlr?[/quote:1545w07i]
I have been quite busy for a while and evolver has been quite unsused due to knob problems, BUT: I received Pot Edition panel couple weeks ago and I have 2 days off work, so I’ll try to upload new version in few days.
” title=”Smile” />"atom":2szcfuyc wrote:It’s not a bug, it’s just something that is not implemented in MIDI, there are no negative numbers in MIDI[/quote:2szcfuyc]
Yes, but scrolling on negative side should start at maximum values (MSB=FF, LSB =7F), just does not work on -1.
-2 will send MSB=FF, LSB=7E, like it should?"atom":2szcfuyc wrote:you need to use the expression evaluator (top 2 properties for a modulator) to map negative values to the ones you want to appear in the midi message[/quote:2szcfuyc]
Yup, TG33 has some quite odd implention of parameters, like basic volume knob for element work on 0-99 range, but 0-127 range in midi + it is backwards, so it need following expression to work: ((modulatorValue-99)*-1)/99*128
” title=”Very Happy” /> why yamaha did not just use maximum value of 99 for midi..Combination of MSB 4-bit and LSB 7-bit gives some trouble.
MSB should have only range of 00-0F, changing when LSB hits over 7F (or under 00).
MSB 7-bit works for parameters using only positive values, but when going to negative side, MSB should start from 0F instead of FF.To be clear:
Parameter with value of "-1" should receive MSB value of "0F" and LSB value of "7F"also I think there is a bug:
CTRLR wont send any midi on "-1" using sysex.
Simple sysex knob (like F0 MS LS F7) with range from -2 to +2 will show thisTG33 panel is almost ready for upload btw.
YES!
10=1, 11=2..(ln was 1n)
” title=”Smile” />works now just how it should
"atom":i8o2caeg wrote:does the TG33 transmit any midi ?[/quote:i8o2caeg]
Only joystick movement as Midi CC + Voice/Multi dumps, so I can’t just copy information from MIDI Monitor how I normally would."atom":i8o2caeg wrote:Also the manual must say what is the $ln, i assume this will be some kind of device identifier for the TG33.[/quote:i8o2caeg]
There is a MIDI BULK Device# -setting, changing it & sending sysex dump will change $ln -part between values 00-0F (1-16), so $ln should work ok with 00, when set to 1 (?)"atom":i8o2caeg wrote:JSynthLib software can talk to the TG33[/quote:i8o2caeg]
JSynthLib does not support voice editing for TG33, only banks & patches
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I’ll keep trying.
"transfixer":slwjbs6h wrote:i am an evo user,and i would like to download this template.what should i do (excuse me if this sounds stupid)[/quote:slwjbs6h]
– Download + install CTRLR (if you haven’t already)
– Download "Mono Evolver Editor 0.7.zip" from first post attachments
– Extract and open .panel in CTRLR
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There is a much cleaner panel coming up when I find some time with Evolver to finish it.
"atom":2f39dvac wrote:yeah it’s ~/Library/Preferences/Ctrlr or somewhere there, i just added a rescue mode it will be in the next build (just hold CTRL+R when starting Ctrlr as standalone or loading as plugin it will reset to defaults)[/quote:2f39dvac]
Yup, first thing I did was searched that folder few times file by file, forgot again there is another library under /username/library/, so preferences are there to be found. Ctrlr running nicely again.edit: Sysex copy/paste has one odd bug: Paste does not work if content has lower-case letters.
edit: Ok, some lowercase letters do work, but for example "f0 01 20 01 01 00 ls ms f7" does not.Where is CTRLR preferences located on OSX + can I just delete it?
I got stuck with stand-alone (exit edit, hide menu, close panel..). Stays that way after restart."atom":nk4898vq wrote:– it’s possible in the SysEx editor k0-kf are global variables, you can assign a global variable to any knob/component, and the value of that component is the value of the global variable[/quote:nk4898vq]
So I’ll add [k0] on every knob Sysex formula, could you tell bit more specific how can I make slider to control that variable?"atom":nk4898vq wrote:– i don’t understand, you can always do an ImageSlider and the image would be empty or something, please explain a bit more[/quote:nk4898vq]
For example: Velocity & Keytrack on that blofeld template would show just the value. You can’t drag with mouse from the value at the moment. Making ImageSlider with pictures of numeric values could work, just lots of work & not easy to change something like color.+ValueOnLeft / ValueOnRight do not work nice atm, could maybe have ValueOnCenter too.
Some improvements / additions:
– Option for Midi-In to update parameter values without sending Midi-Out. Blofeld does not like receiving same values after sending (appearing parameter values on Blofeld screen are flickering).– Sysex device selector, not sure if it’s already possible with globar variables (how these are used?). I mean adding "Device ID variable" in Sysex formula to change Device ID for on every knob with one uiCombo/Slider/Button.
– Value modifier. Which will add/decrease specified value for parameter, or some other solution to make Blofeld envelope trigger mode to work with 2 uiCombo’s (also Evolver LFO key sync)
On Blofeld sysex data for envelope mode looks like [f0 3e 13 00 20 00 01 44 00 f7]. Value before [f7] is controller with 7-bit LSB (00-04) for envelope modes, trigger mode will add 20 (in hex, so 32?) to same controller value so envelope modes with single trigger are 20-24.
– Value knob. Knob without the knob, draggable from number value
– Copy & Paste of SysEx formula would speed up things alot, especially if it would be in the format that MIDI Monitor shows.
[attachment=0:5z4n0486]ShinyKnobs.png[/attachment:5z4n0486]
Here’s how the Blofeld editor looks at the moment with new uiImageSliders” title=”Smile” />edit: oh and let me know if there is some tasks I can help with. Without job & money atm so lots of free time, coffee & smokes.
Nice updates
” title=”Razz” />"atom":1729q641 wrote:– custom Slider and Button, you can supply knobman generated stiched images and create nice looking sliders and buttons[/quote:1729q641]
Ones with OSX can open Knobman with Wine:
http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/
Little unstable (had maybe 1-2 freezes in hour) so remember to save your knobs often.Made some knob experiments, so..
– There might be slight offset changing images, with 31 image knob I get center image with values 66-69 (0-127), should be something like 62-65 to display panning correctly?
– Only square shaped images work? Tried to do slider-knobs, but random part of images were displayed.
– uiFixedImageSliderFixed some things & uploaded new 0.7 panel..
"atom":3a0qpc51 wrote:well i just added a MidiKeyboard component so yes it will be possible. Next build will have that.[/quote:3a0qpc51]
Cool, MidiKeyboard works fine, add that ability for single button and Esi-Keyboard will be twice as fast to use. Still way faster at the moment on double-click method compared to ESI panel” title=”Smile” />
[img:3a0qpc51]http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y327/aksn/random/esikeyboard.png[/img:3a0qpc51]
Don’t know if it’s worth uploading, I might be the only one who has use for it.One with touch-screen could make some interesting things with midi-note buttons.
"atom":ezc7w0sq wrote:well you can’t RE-INDEX VST, i added a [RO] to the tags, you don’t change them, theyre suppose to be untouchable by the user, please don’t change them manually (that’s a bad idead)[/quote:ezc7w0sq]
So no way to make knobs in logical order afterward? Re-arrenging <modulator>…..</modulator> in .panel -file manually?"atom":ezc7w0sq wrote:like i wrote this is beyond something i can do, it’s up to the hosts to ask for parameter names, if they don’t ask Ctrlr won’t tell.[/quote:ezc7w0sq]
Those DAWs still show you parameter names with basic plugins, maybe while scanning the plugin for the first time or everytime you load it, so could it help if ctrlr would load last used panel on startup or something like exporting completely different .vst/.au for one panel, which would be cool otherwise too, also more efficient if it ran "player version" of the ctrlr without edit mode, midi monitor, etc.?+1 tiny bug, no way to name button as =
” title=”Smile” />Cool. Here’s some bugs, so you’ll have something to do:
– VST Indexing seems broken, made simple patch with 2 knobs and I can’t change order of them. If I’ve understood correctly that VST Index 0 should show up as first in your DAW, 1 second, and so on. I can change those values, but they won’t affect anything and reloading patch will return them as original.
– Exit edit mode, make menu dissapear & close panel => you can’t do anything
” title=”Smile” />– Still can’t find a way for DAW to display name of the knobs, I have tried on Renoise, Maschine & Logic.
Looks very nice! Did you upload the panel somewhere? I can’t find it.
I don’t have JP-8080, just want to spy a little how you programmed it.+ Atom, should we have new sub-forum for user templates?
"atom":vhjchbno wrote:name your modulators, all of them are named modualator… you need to name them, the names you give them will be exported to the VST/AU Host.[/quote:vhjchbno]
How? Every slider has the name it says under it (frequency, fine..), many of them have the share the same name, is that the problem?
I’d like to keep them way they are and have sequencer show something like "Osc1Frq"."nrhyan":vhjchbno wrote:aksoni, I think you may have somehow locked the panel you attached. I cant get into edit mode to see the component properties.” title=”Sad” />[/quote:vhjchbno]
You need some precision for this, there is a thin dark blue space at the bottom to enter edit mode.” title=”Smile” />
"nrhyan":vhjchbno wrote:I like how you have set up the sequencer steps to display their note values… exactly how’d you do that?[/quote:vhjchbno]
Make FixedSlider, type notes in the Slider contents.btw. Is it possible to create button which will send NoteOn on mouse click and stop it on release?
I’ve managed to create button that send NoteOn values 0 & 1, but I’ll have to press it second time to stop.Finally I can build qwerty-keyboard plugin for E-mu ESI-2000 to rename samples quickly.
